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Old 08-10-2012, 06:40 AM   #14431
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She doesn't need a helmet the bell will save her.....

The scary sad thing is in her circles she probably is considered really intelligent and insightful
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Old 08-10-2012, 06:50 AM   #14432
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I was sitting in jury duty yesterday listening to a guy sitting behind me (who claimed to be an MSF instructor) telling an older guy interested in getting an HD to buy a half helmet because full face helmets are dangerous. So I suspect you may be right.

Funny we got called together for a car wreck case and the judge made everybody list their motor vehicle accidents. So he later asked me about my bike crashes. So at least I got to explain to the wannabe rider that I have never been seriously hurt in a street accident partly because I wear a full face helmet and armored riding gear.

He asked if that didn't take away some of the fun. I said yes but that getting hurt does, too. I am all for riding your own ride. But a guy claiming to be a motorcycle "safety" instructor giving out advice like that is just too pathetic to let it ride. I had to weigh in on that conversation.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:00 AM   #14433
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I was sitting in jury duty yesterday listening to a guy sitting behind me (who claimed to be an MSF instructor) telling an older guy interested in getting an HD to buy a half helmet because full face helmets are dangerous. So I suspect you may be right.
I can sort of see the logic here. I own countless helmets, and one thing rings true: my vision, hearing, and situational awareness are always better when I wear my half helmet. With any of my 3/4 helmets, I maintain the vision, but lose some of the hearing. When I wear a full face, I lose a lot vision, head mobility, and hearing.

I am more likely to miss something while wearing a full face helmet. In fact, I have missed things before. A few weeks ago I had two sport bikes blast past me on the Blue Ridge. I never heard them coming, and didn't notice them until they were almost past me.

I am much more aware of my surroundings in a half helmet. This may keep me from causing an accident...but it won't do crap to keep someone else from hitting me. It is a trade off, and I can see the both sides of the argument. YMMV



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Old 08-10-2012, 07:07 AM   #14434
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I either wear ear plugs or ear buds with a half helmet (in order to protect my hearing). My peripheral vision is a bit better but I don't believe that a half helmet is anywhere near as safe as a FF.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:10 AM   #14435
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Actually the convertible was over the center line before the crash (so perhaps he's a bit of a hypocrite for blaming the trucker for crossing the center line) and the biker was following too close and wasn't paying close enough attention to stop when the convertible stopped (his video is on the you tube page of the convertible. Lots of fail to go around on those videos including the trucker, the vert driver (who should be commended for stopping in time at least), and the biker that rear-ended the convertible.

you do realize it was another miata that rear ended the red miata not a bike right?

both doucher miata drivers were left of center in the previous turn...hipocrits
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:13 AM   #14436
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A few weeks ago I had two sport bikes blast past me on the Blue Ridge. I never heard them coming, and didn't notice them until they were almost past me.
that was probably just the difference in speed.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:23 AM   #14437
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that was probably just the difference in speed.
I'd say not, soley based on the fact that I heard everyone behind me, even if not visible, when I wore my half helmet on that trip. A sport bike exhaust is a very easy tone to pick up, especially when compared to the lower tone of my Bonnie. And quite frankly, when you are on a hack in the mountains, everyone blasts past you. :cool:

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Old 08-10-2012, 07:30 AM   #14438
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She doesn't need a helmet the bell will save her.....

Yep, those Chicom made Angel Bells have special powers you know. They take to long route from China & stop at the Vatican to get blessed by the Pope.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:41 AM   #14439
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wow those videos are fucking amazing!
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Old 08-10-2012, 08:01 AM   #14440
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I hate to sound like a nanny-state geezer, but what the %&$# are 18-wheelers still doing on the Dragon? They prohibited then on the NC side months ago.

Just curious...
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Old 08-10-2012, 08:06 AM   #14441
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I hate to sound like a nanny-state geezer, but what the %&$# are 18-wheelers still doing on the Dragon? They prohibited then on the NC side months ago.

Just curious...
GPS doesn't have a 18wheeler setting, and some idiots just hit "Go" and follow it blindly to the ends of the earth...
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Old 08-10-2012, 08:13 AM   #14442
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I am more likely to miss something while wearing a full face helmet. In fact, I have missed things before. A few weeks ago I had two sport bikes blast past me on the Blue Ridge. I never heard them coming, and didn't notice them until they were almost past me.
That has to do with mirrors and situational awareness, not helmets.
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Old 08-10-2012, 08:16 AM   #14443
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That has to do with mirrors and situational awareness, not helmets.
Helmets influence situational awareness. I should know, I wear them for work and motorcycling. Mirrors only show so much on the twisties.

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Old 08-10-2012, 08:23 AM   #14444
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Occasionally I get surprised by someone coming up behind me. I get pissed at myself for losing SA. I never thought to blame it on the helmet. Yeah! It's the helmet's fault!
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Old 08-10-2012, 08:33 AM   #14445
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Occasionally I get surprised by someone coming up behind me. I get pissed at myself for losing SA. I never thought to blame it on the helmet. Yeah! It's the helmet's fault!
I don't think I've had anyone come up behind me in the twisties in a long time...

Harleys and sportbikes are big here, supermotos, not so much...
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