The KaTaMaki 650 ADV project (KTM LC4 gets a twin engine swap) - Page 18

MODNROD · 01-14-2010, 05:33 AM

I was really hoping you'd have some pics Lukas.

I'm trying to distract myself from the 45degC heat, and the fact that after 2 hours up on my tin roof the A/C is still broken......

Perhaps more news soon?

Please?

Too bloody hot to work on my own shit

tileman · 01-20-2010, 07:51 PM

Quering where you got the rear tanks from.

Planning on re starting my DL650 build when I get back home later this year and I have found no useful info regarding them....????

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=461007

GooseR6 · 01-25-2010, 07:38 PM

Subscribed.

clapped_r6 · 02-02-2010, 12:31 PM

bumppppit

Roadracer_Al · 02-02-2010, 10:20 PM

Damn, there is a Triumph 675 triple, pre-crashed and de-forked, on my local Craig's List. Someone please tell me not to do it...

NordieBoy · 02-03-2010, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadracer_Al

Damn, there is a Triumph 675 triple, pre-crashed and de-forked, on my local Craig's List. Someone please tell me not to do it...

Don't do it!

Make sure you take photos when you're not doing it too.

There's a 1981 GSX400F engine with 800km on it crying out to me over here :(

tonymorr · 02-03-2010, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadracer_Al

Damn, there is a Triumph 675 triple, pre-crashed and de-forked, on my local Craig's List. Someone please tell me not to do it...

That would just be too tempting for me!

sanjoh · 02-03-2010, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadracer_Al

Damn, there is a Triumph 675 triple, pre-crashed and de-forked, on my local Craig's List. Someone please tell me not to do it...

I would be all over that. One look up close at a 675 make me wonder why Triumph hasn't put it in a dual sport,

Roadracer_Al · 02-04-2010, 09:55 AM

DAMN IT, you're not helping here, people.

The ad showed up again last night... maybe the guy will deal on the price a bit...

I keep telling myself that EFI is the greatest thing since sliced bread, then I start thinking about actually building a bike more or less from scratch with EFI, and my knees start wobbling.

This is one of those cases in which there are about a billion very sound reasons not to, and zero good reason to, yet I keep thinking it's a great idea.

LukasM · 02-04-2010, 10:09 AM

Sorry for the lack of updates. Still busy with other stuff, although I have made some calls this week to find a fabricator to help me with the frame modifications. Made some good progress in the shop, and we are now working on getting some serious machining equipment. Stay tuned!

Al,

What does the 675 Triumph engine look like as far as exterior dimensions etc? I have quite a bit of seat time on a friends Speed Triple and liked it a lot. It certainly is a powerful engine with character, and it's got a sweet sound to boot!

If you look at it only for the end result, a project like this is definitely not worth it. You should do it for the learning experience and because you enjoy wrenching. If the engine is EFI already, you could reuse most if not all of the parts. Between the guys here and on Thumpertalk you'll get it sorted out for sure.

sanjoh · 02-04-2010, 11:05 AM

The 675 is narrow for a triple and the motor is quite compact. I considered it as a conversion candiidate but they are $$$.

LukasM
Read your thread and others working from the 650r as a basis. Found a crashed 650r. Here's my progress so far, it's rolling! Front suspension is WP 43mm from an early KTM. Rear shock is a showa from a CBR (I think). Wheels are from a KTM with a cush drive.

LukasM · 02-05-2010, 08:25 AM

Wow, awesome bike! That one sure deserves to be in "Beasts".

Do you have a build thread somewhere? Would love to know what kind of weight you end up with. Be careful with adjusting the front fork travel, bet the 21" wheel gets mighty close to hitting with the full 12".

jdrocks · 02-05-2010, 10:49 AM

man, the 650R is getting some attention. i've got a 43mm usd front if i get tired of the versys forks i'm using. keep us posted.

LukasM · 02-05-2010, 11:29 AM

JD and all you other guys,

Did anybody happen to come across an aftermarket oil pan for the 650 twin yet? IIRC the guy who is riding his Versys to South America cracked his open, so maybe I am not the first to need one.

I found a fabricator who seems confident to do any necessary frame mods, although he warned me that it won't be cheap (about $90 an hour

). I want to bring him the chassis next week so he can get a better idea, can't have my down tubes 5" lower because of that damn extended drain plug.

Lukas

jdrocks · 02-05-2010, 11:59 AM

no aftermarket pan that i know of. two issues-the drop for the drain plug and the existing mounting lugs that were used on both the 650R and versys for the lower fairing panels.

gary sheared off one of the lugs that his algaard was mounted to when he hit some road debris. my gravel guard is mounted to the same lugs so i'm going to change the mounts, although i never had a problem.

tony said he was going to machine a new pan, but i don't know if he did.

i think i going to design a better guard with different mounts and more coverage than what i did before. should work for where i ride.

01-14-2010, 05:33 AM	#256
MODNROD Perpetual ponderer Joined: Feb 2009 Location: Midwest, West Oz Oddometer: 1,663	I was really hoping you'd have some pics Lukas. I'm trying to distract myself from the 45degC heat, and the fact that after 2 hours up on my tin roof the A/C is still broken...... Perhaps more news soon? Please? Too bloody hot to work on my own shit __________________ Every ride's an adventure if you can't ride for crap http://www.dragtimes.com/Ducati-Mons...lip-10329.html

01-20-2010, 07:51 PM	#257
tileman Studly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2007 Location: Melbourne, OZ Oddometer: 731	rear tanks..... Quering where you got the rear tanks from. Planning on re starting my DL650 build when I get back home later this year and I have found no useful info regarding them....???? http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=461007 __________________ If ignorance is bliss, why aren´t more people happy?????

01-25-2010, 07:38 PM	#258
GooseR6 Ride the World! Joined: Feb 2007 Location: North of D-TWA(Detroit) Oddometer: 97	Subscribed. __________________ It is always something...

02-02-2010, 12:31 PM	#259
clapped_r6 The Spoad Warrior Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Ridgefield, WA Oddometer: 2,188	bumppppit __________________ none of us are as dumb as all of us

02-02-2010, 10:20 PM	#260
Roadracer_Al louder, louder, louder! Joined: Aug 2007 Location: Oakland, CA Oddometer: 1,081	Damn, there is a Triumph 675 triple, pre-crashed and de-forked, on my local Craig's List. Someone please tell me not to do it... __________________ ------------------------------ Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow ------------------------------ New Rider Training in the San Francisco Bay Area at Motorcycle University". Learn to Ride...Better!

02-04-2010, 09:55 AM	#264
Roadracer_Al louder, louder, louder! Joined: Aug 2007 Location: Oakland, CA Oddometer: 1,081	DAMN IT, you're not helping here, people. The ad showed up again last night... maybe the guy will deal on the price a bit... I keep telling myself that EFI is the greatest thing since sliced bread, then I start thinking about actually building a bike more or less from scratch with EFI, and my knees start wobbling. This is one of those cases in which there are about a billion very sound reasons not to, and zero good reason to, yet I keep thinking it's a great idea. __________________ ------------------------------ Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow ------------------------------ New Rider Training in the San Francisco Bay Area at Motorcycle University". Learn to Ride...Better!

02-04-2010, 10:09 AM	#265
LukasM ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2006 Location: Vienna, Austria Oddometer: 4,923	Sorry for the lack of updates. Still busy with other stuff, although I have made some calls this week to find a fabricator to help me with the frame modifications. Made some good progress in the shop, and we are now working on getting some serious machining equipment. Stay tuned! Al, What does the 675 Triumph engine look like as far as exterior dimensions etc? I have quite a bit of seat time on a friends Speed Triple and liked it a lot. It certainly is a powerful engine with character, and it's got a sweet sound to boot! If you look at it only for the end result, a project like this is definitely not worth it. You should do it for the learning experience and because you enjoy wrenching. If the engine is EFI already, you could reuse most if not all of the parts. Between the guys here and on Thumpertalk you'll get it sorted out for sure. __________________ Proud member of the HUSABERG ADVENTURE TEAM! '12 Husaberg FE570, 09 KTM XC-F/ 450 RFS hybrid, 07 KTM 450 SMR, 08+09 BMW F650GS twins/F800GS conversion, 03+05 YZF-R6

02-04-2010, 11:05 AM	#266
sanjoh Purveyor of Light Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Sandbox, FL Oddometer: 3,667	The 675 is narrow for a triple and the motor is quite compact. I considered it as a conversion candiidate but they are $$$. LukasM Read your thread and others working from the 650r as a basis. Found a crashed 650r. Here's my progress so far, it's rolling! Front suspension is WP 43mm from an early KTM. Rear shock is a showa from a CBR (I think). Wheels are from a KTM with a cush drive. __________________ Model 60 LED 3600 lumens . . LED thread in Vendors Dualsport Fairing w LED...Dirt Ninja Build...TAT 08...

02-05-2010, 08:25 AM	#267
LukasM ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2006 Location: Vienna, Austria Oddometer: 4,923	Wow, awesome bike! That one sure deserves to be in "Beasts". Do you have a build thread somewhere? Would love to know what kind of weight you end up with. Be careful with adjusting the front fork travel, bet the 21" wheel gets mighty close to hitting with the full 12". __________________ Proud member of the HUSABERG ADVENTURE TEAM! '12 Husaberg FE570, 09 KTM XC-F/ 450 RFS hybrid, 07 KTM 450 SMR, 08+09 BMW F650GS twins/F800GS conversion, 03+05 YZF-R6

02-05-2010, 10:49 AM	#268
jdrocks Gravel Runner Joined: Jul 2007 Oddometer: 2,776	man, the 650R is getting some attention. i've got a 43mm usd front if i get tired of the versys forks i'm using. keep us posted.

02-05-2010, 11:29 AM	#269
LukasM ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2006 Location: Vienna, Austria Oddometer: 4,923	JD and all you other guys, Did anybody happen to come across an aftermarket oil pan for the 650 twin yet? IIRC the guy who is riding his Versys to South America cracked his open, so maybe I am not the first to need one. I found a fabricator who seems confident to do any necessary frame mods, although he warned me that it won't be cheap (about $90 an hour ). I want to bring him the chassis next week so he can get a better idea, can't have my down tubes 5" lower because of that damn extended drain plug. Lukas __________________ Proud member of the HUSABERG ADVENTURE TEAM! '12 Husaberg FE570, 09 KTM XC-F/ 450 RFS hybrid, 07 KTM 450 SMR, 08+09 BMW F650GS twins/F800GS conversion, 03+05 YZF-R6

02-05-2010, 11:59 AM	#270
jdrocks Gravel Runner Joined: Jul 2007 Oddometer: 2,776	no aftermarket pan that i know of. two issues-the drop for the drain plug and the existing mounting lugs that were used on both the 650R and versys for the lower fairing panels. gary sheared off one of the lugs that his algaard was mounted to when he hit some road debris. my gravel guard is mounted to the same lugs so i'm going to change the mounts, although i never had a problem. tony said he was going to machine a new pan, but i don't know if he did. i think i going to design a better guard with different mounts and more coverage than what i did before. should work for where i ride.

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