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Old 12-08-2010, 02:27 PM   #736
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Why not a 450 kit and sixth gear
*sigh* wish I could.

I already have a 625 kit and five gears.



As for the 450, honestly, there's no good dealer nearby for support, I had to put $2k extra into that one after I bought it because the PO dorked it up, as a result I would want to buy one that was nearly new and completely stock, and I can't afford one. Plus I have no dirt experience (except for a couple run-offs!) and I think a 450 KTM would be too much bike for me to learn on. I'm a ridercoach, I tell my students smaller is better, I should listen to my own advice.

The DR would be cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain, there's a good suzuki dealer next door to where I work, I could upgrade the bike as my skills improve and as I have the money. Plus I got the SMC instead of the SMR because I wanted to stay away from MX maintenance intervals.
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Old 12-08-2010, 02:41 PM   #737
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Do you really need the 6th gear?

If not, just buy a cheap DRZ and you won't need to do those upgrades to the 350. Its a good place to start as a first DS bike. You will know if you want to go bigger or smaller after you ride it for a while. I think it is the 02 and up that has the best suspension from the factory. And the market is full of them with low miles. I bet you could find a nice one for under 2 grand. Dollar for dollar, its a tough bike to beat. Mine has over 20k in woods miles on it and still runs great.
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Old 12-08-2010, 02:59 PM   #738
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The transmission is why I sold my DRZ.
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Old 12-08-2010, 03:13 PM   #739
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Why can't the factory build the bike people want?

What would have happened if Suzuki had kept a six-speed when they built the DRZ?
I ask myself this question every single time I ride my DRZ. I really like the bike, but I'd like it even better with a wide-ratio 6 speed. I'd prolly even sell my KLR (gasp!). Shocking sentiment, I know.
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Old 12-08-2010, 05:31 PM   #740
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So it screams like a smashed cat at 70mph, I just run it at 55-60. It will run all day there. The transmission is fine off road, I have it geared up 3 in the rear from stock. I actually like the stock gearing better for most the riding I do, but you have to try really hard to stall it the way it is. I always have full knobs on it too, so it hasn't got much business being on the highway. That is what the other bike is for.
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Old 12-08-2010, 05:43 PM   #741
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Yabbut I've got a considerable amount of highway to cover before I get to the dirt! I'm gonna try SM gearing (15/41) next sprocket change just to get a comfortable highway cruise speed...I don't spend a lotta time creepy-crawlin in 1st while riding BW or EG, so I'm hoping I can live with the taller gearing offroad. Everything's a compromise.
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Old 12-08-2010, 05:50 PM   #742
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Yeah you hae 30-40 miles of tar before you hit the dirt. A full knobbie rear and dirt gearing just ain't in the mix for you Tony.I cover my 10 miles or so pretty easily, and could shorten it up a bit but there is a nice twisty I like to hit on the way in

For me, the 450 is the best bike to pass through my garage for how I ride. I just deal with the oil changes (ain't really that bad) and keep on keepin' on
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Old 12-08-2010, 06:09 PM   #743
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A full knobbie rear and dirt gearing just ain't in the mix for you Tony.
Truth.

A 50/50 tire on the rear is a compromise I'm OK with, I just haven't found the right gearing yet. I have a feeling SM gearing is the answer.
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Old 12-08-2010, 06:26 PM   #744
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Old 12-08-2010, 06:46 PM   #745
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Yeah you hae 30-40 miles of tar before you hit the dirt....

I just deal with the oil changes (ain't really that bad) and keep on keepin' on
I have probably a minimum of 20 miles, and maybe as much as 30-40.

What about valve adjustments?
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Old 12-08-2010, 07:09 PM   #746
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For me, the 450 is the best bike to pass through my garage for how I ride. I just deal with the oil changes (ain't really that bad) and keep on keepin' on

+1

I've had a DR350 & a DRZ400 and I like the KTM the best. Looking back, I should have just started out with the KTM.

Look at me now, I was a runner up on the last two ADV races/events I attended just because of the bike. Novice rider + very capable bike =


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What about valve adjustments?
They are surprisingly easy to do (nut adjuster vs shim/bucket). As a matter of fact, I think it's easier to work on the KTM vs the DRZ.
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Old 12-08-2010, 07:44 PM   #747
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Screw type, so no shims needed. I am looking at about 25 hour oil changes or so. Oil is clean as it was when it went in 23 hours ago.
The MX maintenance is for the bikes when ridden like MX bikes are. I DS mine, and run service roads. Two track, and slow paced single.. No need for hyper maint schedules IMHO. It never hits the rev limiter, rarely sees full throttle, gets short shifted most of the time, etc... I love it
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Old 12-08-2010, 07:56 PM   #748
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One thing

the KTM is rough on rear tires

Fig three to one rears to front. You'll spin anything less than a full on knobby a LOT

I have been known to do a wheelie or two though
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They are surprisingly easy to do (nut adjuster vs shim/bucket). As a matter of fact, I think it's easier to work on the KTM vs the DRZ.
Well there's no doubt the valve adjustments are easier to do, prolly takes you 30 min. max to check/adjust the valves on yer KTM. Of course, the tradeoff is you're checkin/adjustin them a lot more. But I'm quite certain the KTM puts a bigger smile on yer face when it's throttle-twistin time


Now as for that part about you being a "novice rider," well that's just
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Yeah, I heard all this stuff at camp. That 450 sounds like an awesome machine. When Eloy gets a better front tire on his, I will have to ride it again. I felt out of control for the short time I rode it. I probably just didn't take enough time to get used the way an MX bike feels again.

Don't let the valve adjustments chase you away. Someone local will walk you through it if you have not done it before.
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