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Old 03-10-2014, 12:02 PM   #1
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My '81 R65

I bought this back in January but she just arrived at my house today. I'm new to BMWs, how hard will the transition from Honda be?

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Old 03-10-2014, 12:16 PM   #2
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By comparison with a Honda you now have the most accessible and easiest to service carbs, spark plugs and valve clearances in the world of motorcycles.

Everything else will be worse than the Honda but you WILL get used to the gear change

Seriously only the gear change will be worse. The clutch will seem very abrupt at first especially if the bike has been stood along time. That will improve with use. If it needs it a spline lube will make gear changes easier.

...and your stand is worn so that will be worse. You can tell by the angle that it's going too far over centre. It will need the tips building up with weld where they contact the frame stops.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:28 PM   #3
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By comparison with a Honda you now have the most accessible and easiest to service carbs, spark plugs and valve clearances in the world of motorcycles.

Everything else will be worse than the Honda but you WILL get used to the gear change

Seriously only the gear change will be worse. The clutch will seem very abrupt at first especially if the bike has been stood along time. That will improve with use. If it needs it a spline lube will make gear changes easier.

...and your stand is worn so that will be worse. You can tell by the angle that it's going too far over centre. It will need the tips building up with weld where they contact the frame stops.
You forgot that the electrics are about 10x easier to work on than the medusa's nest that is the honda wiring harnesses.
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Old 03-10-2014, 01:27 PM   #4
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i started off on an xr 80 as a child then an '81 CM400t then an '83 r65. That's where I am now. The honda certainly always started easier and the stock charging system was much more trust worthy. It's high time I replace my oxidized and disintegrating r65 wiring. there are a couple aftermarket mods that essentially start charging at significantly less rpm.. Helps if you use the bike around town. Long trips I never feel like I'll get stranded. Euro moto electrics (EME) and Enduralast have alternator upgrades.

I bought a few things for the electrics...
http://www.euromotoelectrics.com/Ign...gnmod-r284.htm
http://www.euromotoelectrics.com/BMW...rect063edl.htm

also replaced a couple relays.. there is a list of cheap replacements somewhere... airhead replacement relays..hmph.

I love the CM400, and I feel quite similar for the r65. final drives are cool. what can i say...

I just remembered!!
I thought this was perfect as I was deciding to buy the r65-
enjoy!
comparison between '79 CX500 and 79' R65

the pages are a little funky but they're all there.

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Old 03-10-2014, 02:52 PM   #5
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My last Hondas (a couple of Transalps and a Hawk GT) didn't need working on. As reliable as a refrigerator (and often about as interesting.)

For me, the learning curve's been pretty steep with the Airhead, but then everything's needed fixing. It's the first bike that's had transmission problems, a burned out clutch, needed a voltage regulator, needed the electrical connectors cleaned, etc. The clutch is just weird, but works well when it's got a decent disk. I've been around Japanese bikes since 1971, and have never had a bike that was a maintenance hog like the BMW.

OTOH, it's historic, folkloric, and kinda fun to ride. The other poster is right--for trips out of town, I have a KLR--not as much fun to ride, but never leaves me by the side of the road, either.
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Old 03-10-2014, 06:19 PM   #6
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That 1979 article was great, but I think that link skips the end, it says continued on page 77 but doesn't go any farther. Oh, well. My other bike is an '82 Nighthawk 450 so not too far off.

This one is low mileage, under 11,000 and the PO gave me a receipt for over $1,200 worth of work recently done to her - brakes, carbs and ignition all rebuilt with lots of new parts. I just started her up in the driveway and put her in the garage. I'll change all the fluids and get her cleaned up a bit.
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Old 03-10-2014, 10:37 PM   #7
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That 1979 article was great, but I think that link skips the end, it says continued on page 77 but doesn't go any farther.
It's there, but for some reason there is no 'next' link on the previous page but clicking on the page image itself brings it up.
http://yeoldecycleshoppe.wordpress.c...honda-cx500-7/
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Old 03-11-2014, 06:53 AM   #8
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Thanks, I'm glad I mentioned it. I'm picking up an oil filter after work.
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Old 03-11-2014, 09:26 AM   #9
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Hey Mainescoot, if you ever want to take a ride along the Maine coast you ought hit me up! Summer is closing in!
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Old 03-11-2014, 12:07 PM   #10
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...how hard will the transition from Honda be?...
...man that's an open-ended question. I what way(s)?

Driveline?
Maintenance?
Ergonomics?
Dealer availability?
What sort of Honda?

I 'spect if you're getting off an 80's Honda 650 twin and onto the R65, no big diff, motorcycle stuff, handlebars, brakes, motor.

If you're comig off a Honda Passport, maybe not a bit more...

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Old 03-11-2014, 06:41 PM   #11
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Here's a pic from last summer, RD:



Toque, I'm in.
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Old 03-11-2014, 07:00 PM   #12
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I'm up in Warren. If you ever get up this way give me a shout.
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Old 03-11-2014, 07:09 PM   #13
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how hard will the transition...
And of course, a LOT depends on what kind of scoot, too...





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Old 03-11-2014, 08:22 PM   #14
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I had the exact same bike & color! Only a 1984.

Biggest problems I had were keeping the battery level up (buy a charger) and valves receding due to city/traffic riding. Other that that it was pretty reliable.

Otherwise, maintain regularly & enjoy!
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Old 03-11-2014, 08:47 PM   #15
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Old is old.


Old Hondas are good, but working/maintenance on the bike itself is far, far easier on the BMW.... once they are set up, they're gonna be good for another 40 years.

Hondas are.... well, you meet the nicest people...but.... boring? BMW's have lotsa SOUL... You breathe, your ride, you connect.

If you don't, well..... go back to the Honda. Simple. It works, or it doesn't
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