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Old 07-18-2009, 02:16 PM   #46
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Pissed Atlantic

My buddy and I stopped by Destination mc in knoxville today right in the middle of a deal being made for an Aprilia Atlantic 500(700 miles). Asking price was $3317 and the buyer stood there and said with his Tn accent Ahh had $3200 in mah head. I felt like saying something wise to him but I just walked away. If I had the money I would have bid it up just to fuck him up and save the salesguy.
Is there any end to these Tight-Asses!
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Old 07-18-2009, 04:28 PM   #47
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My buddy and I stopped by Destination mc in knoxville today right in the middle of a deal being made for an Aprilia Atlantic 500(700 miles). Asking price was $3317 and the buyer stood there and said with his Tn accent Ahh had $3200 in mah head. I felt like saying something wise to him but I just walked away. If I had the money I would have bid it up just to fuck him up and save the salesguy.
Is there any end to these Tight-Asses!
Umm, no. I hate to be one defending a yokel, but it sure doesn't seem to me that he was a tight ass. Please explain to me why if the dealer prices something used that he doesn't have anymore wiggle room than the buyer? I can only assume the dealer took it in on trade and, like all dealers, was pretty damn tight with the trade in value.

But mostly your observation falls flat because of the cold, hard reality of value. Aprilia stopped making the Atlantic in '04 if I remember correctly. That was 5 years ago and the Atlantic isn't yet a collectible, vintage attraction for most folks. Hell, they stopped making it partly because demand was low and it didn't sell all that well. Those likely checked and dry rotted tires alone might be a hundred or so to replace. And this economy sucks and most scooter purchases are still luxury purchases. Aprilia is a boutique brand with limited distribution and limited appeal to buyers--either they really want one or its just a random purchase. Plus, they're just not worth all that much. Kelley Blue Book (yes, I know its not the perfect pricing guide) has '04's retailing for $3455 and '03's retailing for $3220.

Well, enough of that rant...
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Old 07-18-2009, 04:37 PM   #48
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At this point it would be between a BV 500 and a Buell Blast. I would lean towards the BV, it appears it would be better on long rides than the Blast. But I do love the simplicity (almost crudeness) of the Blast.

Currently I am riding a HD 200,it's a great all around scooter. The only thing I find myself wanting is a little more top end speed and a bit more weight when I am on a highway.
I too have considered a Blast time and again. I test ride one every now and then when I think I want to get back into motorcycles. But then I always seem to decide not to sell my 50cc Ruckus. The Blast is probably the perfect motorcycle for me: fast enough for the highway, small and light, excellent miles per gallon (probably better than that BV500), unique in design, simple to operate and repair. But I always seem to decide that I prefer twist-n-go, don't like motorcycle vibrations, use underseat storage and don't mind the hot engine behind me instead of between my legs. But I'd be hard pressed to say that any of my friend's were wrong if they bought one because they wanted a motorcycle.
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Old 07-24-2009, 01:48 PM   #49
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Old 07-24-2009, 04:22 PM   #50
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Old 07-24-2009, 06:04 PM   #51
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Old 08-07-2009, 04:49 PM   #52
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At this point it would be between a BV 500 and a Buell Blast. I would lean towards the BV, it appears it would be better on long rides than the Blast. But I do love the simplicity (almost crudeness) of the Blast.

Currently I am riding a HD 200,it's a great all around scooter. The only thing I find myself wanting is a little more top end speed and a bit more weight when I am on a highway.


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I too have considered a Blast time and again. I test ride one every now and then when I think I want to get back into motorcycles. But then I always seem to decide not to sell my 50cc Ruckus. The Blast is probably the perfect motorcycle for me: fast enough for the highway, small and light, excellent miles per gallon (probably better than that BV500), unique in design, simple to operate and repair. But I always seem to decide that I prefer twist-n-go, don't like motorcycle vibrations, use underseat storage and don't mind the hot engine behind me instead of between my legs. But I'd be hard pressed to say that any of my friend's were wrong if they bought one because they wanted a motorcycle.

You don't suppose Erik Buell killed the Blast because he found out scooter trash like it? Do you?
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Old 08-07-2009, 06:40 PM   #53
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You don't suppose Erik Buell killed the Blast because he found out scooter trash like it? Do you?
Guilty as charged.

Of course, now that they've decided to kill it instead of replace it with something better I just might have to buy one.

What will Harley now use in its Rider's Edge training classes?
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Old 08-08-2009, 03:50 AM   #54
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Umm, no. I hate to be one defending a yokel, but it sure doesn't seem to me that he was a tight ass. Please explain to me why if the dealer prices something used that he doesn't have anymore wiggle room than the buyer? I can only assume the dealer took it in on trade and, like all dealers, was pretty damn tight with the trade in value.

But mostly your observation falls flat because of the cold, hard reality of value. Aprilia stopped making the Atlantic in '04 if I remember correctly. That was 5 years ago and the Atlantic isn't yet a collectible, vintage attraction for most folks. Hell, they stopped making it partly because demand was low and it didn't sell all that well. Those likely checked and dry rotted tires alone might be a hundred or so to replace. And this economy sucks and most scooter purchases are still luxury purchases. Aprilia is a boutique brand with limited distribution and limited appeal to buyers--either they really want one or its just a random purchase. Plus, they're just not worth all that much. Kelley Blue Book (yes, I know its not the perfect pricing guide) has '04's retailing for $3455 and '03's retailing for $3220.

Well, enough of that rant...
I heard more today.
The Asshole buyer actually got it for $2700.With to many people like that around more businesses will fail.
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Old 08-08-2009, 07:12 AM   #55
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I heard more today.
The Asshole buyer actually got it for $2700.With to many people like that around more businesses will fail.
Excuse me but that is capitalism at work. The bike sold for what it was worth which is what someone is willing to pay.
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Old 08-08-2009, 08:08 AM   #56
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Excuse me but that is capitalism at work. The bike sold for what it was worth which is what someone is willing to pay.
I have to agree. I have tried to address craiglist on this issue. Why doesn't this guy deserve a great deal again? If you wanna know what bikes are over priced, just scroll thru the hundreds and hundreds of bikes available on CL. All the bikes that are on the list ARE overpriced.... other wise, they would be sold (and hopefully delisted)

I used to buy sell trade vintage guitars. I had a guitar that I loved and would never sell. Everyone tried to buy it from me and I always turned them down. Times got tuff and I sold it on ebay. Several of my friends skawked at the deal the buyer got and berated me for selling it so cheap. But I paid my rent, a chore that none of my friends curiously wanted to do for me. I paid my rent... and that was that.
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Old 08-08-2009, 01:03 PM   #57
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I think that since CL is free, people tend to very optimistic with their asking price and their description of the bike's condition. Watch their ads and the price drops over time.
I did get a great deal on a scooter on CL.
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Old 08-08-2009, 02:48 PM   #58
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Watch their ads and the price drops over time.
I did get a great deal on a scooter on CL.
yes, and YOUR sellers ad was delisted, that's why we didn't see it.
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Old 08-10-2009, 01:48 PM   #59
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Old 08-10-2009, 06:02 PM   #60
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