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Old 09-09-2014, 09:17 AM   #1
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Honda NC700X or Burgman 400?

If you had to choose between the Honda NC700X or Burgman 400, what would your choice be and why?
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Old 09-09-2014, 09:44 AM   #2
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If you had to choose between the Honda NC700X or Burgman 400, what would your choice be and why?
I have both these bikes. A 2013 NC700X without the DCT and a 2008 Burgman 400.

Both excellent motorcycles making your question very difficult to answer. It really comes down to specific needs that will determine witch one will be better.

The Burgman 400 will give you a more comfortable seat and double the storage (at least..maybe triple) under the seat compared to the frunk on the NC700X. The frunk is certainly handy though! The Burgman 400 will have less reserve power on the freeway but has adequate power to get the job done. Fuel economy wise the NC700X is a real miser. Its freaky good and I get 10 more miles per gallon with the NC700X then the Burgman 400.

Handling wise they are different beast. At speeds below say 40 MPH it really does not matter. Above 40 MPH the smaller wheels on the Burgman 400 start to show some drawbacks and the NC700X would prove superior.

Comfort wise again the Burgman 400 is hard to beat with that huge squishy seat. The seat on the NC700X is not big and squishy but for me at least its certainly fine comfort wise.

As for overall value it depends on the market. Both bikes can be found at some deep discounts. I got my leftover 2013 NC700X for last February for $6,400 OTD. I have seen new old stock Burgman 400's go for as little as $5,900 OTD in some markets.

Overall its pretty close to being toss up. I have often said that if I can only have 1 bike it would be the NC700X. However I often end up taking the Burgman 400 for its colossal storage, more squishy seat and automatic CVT transmission (my NX700X is the 6 Speed manual version). Can't beat the auto transmission in traffic. Something we have a lot of.

Maybe the best of both worlds would be the NC700X with the DCT transmission. Certainly look and try both before deciding. You can't beat the practicality of a scooter that is for sure.
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Old 09-09-2014, 11:52 AM   #3
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I'll be buying a NC700X this winter. So...




It depends on what you're wanting to do. Why are those your two choices?

It could be worse (Harley vs Buddy 50)... but it seems these are two completely different machines.
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Old 09-09-2014, 12:07 PM   #4
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The Honda will be more versatile. It's designed for both on and offroad.

But I still choose Suzuki. Suzuki has higher quality in general.

I think Honda quality has been down recently. My last two brand new Hondas have been nightmares: (1) Nighthawk 250 with 500 miles needed a rebuild engine. (2) NT700V with less than 1000 miles has electrical gremlins that left me stranded three times and dealer couldn't figure out what was wrong.

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Old 09-09-2014, 12:16 PM   #5
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...It depends on what you're wanting to do. Why are those your two choices...

I was asking what YOUR choice would be, so what I want to do is irrelevant. Those just happen to be the couple of bikes I am considering.

Great info Longhaul747 - thanks!
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Old 09-09-2014, 12:28 PM   #6
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I was asking what YOUR choice would be, so what I want to do is irrelevant.
Oh, well in that case... NC700X.

MPG = NC700X > B400 ... winner NC700X

Price = B400 ($7999) > NC700X ($7799)... winner NC700X

Range = B400 (200miles) < NC700X (240miles) ... winner NC700X

Weight = B400 (489#) > NC700X (472# wet) ... winner NC700X



NC700X even offers auto trans for those unable to shift. Perhaps a CTX700 would be more for that crowd looking to get "one step" up from a scoot.
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Old 09-09-2014, 12:38 PM   #7
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Old 09-09-2014, 06:25 PM   #9
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Oh, well in that case... NC700X.

MPG = NC700X > B400 ... winner NC700X

Price = B400 ($7999) > NC700X ($7799)... winner NC700X

Range = B400 (200miles) < NC700X (240miles) ... winner NC700X

Weight = B400 (489#) > NC700X (472# wet) ... winner NC700X



NC700X even offers auto trans for those unable to shift. Perhaps a CTX700 would be more for that crowd looking to get "one step" up from a scoot.
I do like the NC700x for sure. Can't beat the MPGs, and you can easily add bags and slap on a new exhaust. Plus, it's not a scooter. But I love that Burgie trunk. If the two bikes mated and had a kid it would surely be a PC800 which I would by (another) if they weren't so old.
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Old 09-09-2014, 10:00 PM   #10
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Honda NC700X can be found new or nearly new for 4200 to 5300 . Old new stock. Better gas mileage . Better all round bike . Only draw back are seats that are way to hard to ride more then 1.5 hours or so in without numb bumb . Bigger tires so less tire changes in the long run. Can run Tires that are made for on road / and mid off road. Voted top bike of 2012 . here the 51 page posting from here on the nc700x . http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=815958

You ve got 48 horse power
80 mpg and I think a way higher top speed.
Far more after market support .
Bottom line is you might the Nicer people on a Honda

Cycletrader listing for them. I lied there is one for 3999 with 4200 miles. http://www.cycletrader.com/search-re...odelkeyword=1&
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Old 09-09-2014, 11:07 PM   #11
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I wouldn't consider the NC700X for offroad.
Spring travel only 15cm, small ground clearance, clumsy 218kg, ABS not detachable, narrow mudguards not adjustable in height, aluminium wheels prone to break, ...
Both are made for tarmac. With the Burgman beeing far more comfortable and versatile.
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Old 09-10-2014, 01:19 AM   #12
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The NC700 has a high centre of gravity, and feels very heavy at slow speeds. It quickly loses the impression of weight above 15 or 20mph though.

Its noisey, as the screen directs airflow to the bottom of the helmet. Ive never ridden the BM so I can't compare, but its the noisiest bike I've ridden at 70mph

Is the 750 version not in the US yet? Ive had mine since March, I'm suprised its not made it's way over the pond yet.
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Old 09-10-2014, 01:41 AM   #13
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the frunk
If you call the storage tank in front of you on the NC700 a frunk, and a trunk is behind you, what's under-seat storage?
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Old 09-10-2014, 02:04 AM   #14
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I would choose the NC700X.

The country roads here in the UK can be awful. The extra suspension travel of a conventional motorcycle and the lower un-sprung weight (motor separate from swing-arm) would give a better ride over poor surfaces. I would take the DCT transmission and leave the gear-changing to real men (with an honorable nod to Lewis Hamilton, Fernando Alonso, Sebastian Vettel etc who have to drive Formula 1 cars without the use of a clutch pedal)

I would add my Airhawk seat for comfort.

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Old 09-10-2014, 09:02 AM   #15
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If you call the storage tank in front of you on the NC700 a frunk, and a trunk is behind you, what's under-seat storage?
I don't know....maybe the brunk for under butt storage?

On one of the NC700 forums the storage area is called the frunk. I am assuming it got this nick name because this is where the fuel is supposed to go but honestly I have no idea.

What do you all think? We can start a trend here on adv rider
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