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Old 05-06-2011, 10:48 AM   #106
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Montesa

Both the Honda RTL and Montesa Cota are built at the Montesa-Honda factory outside of Barcelona

The RTL's are badged as Hondas and then exported to Japan. The Montesas are exported world wide.

I'm just glad that Honda is in the trails game. It would be so cool if Yamaha got into it more and KTM. Trials bikes could have a great future if more people realized their potential as Trail bikes. Riding a MX'er on singletrack Trails is just dumb.

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Old 05-06-2011, 11:47 AM   #107
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Looked in the garage for evidence...

...and my bike has factory identifiers (stickers, etc.) that say "HRC" (magnesium side case), "Montesa", "Cota", and "315R". So no, it ain't a Honda.
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Old 05-06-2011, 11:50 AM   #108
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Both the Honda RTL and Montesa Cota are built at the Montesa-Honda factory outside of Barcelona

The RTL's are badged as Hondas and then exported to Japan. The Montesas are exported world wide.

I'm just glad that Honda is in the trails game. It would be so cool if Yamaha got into it more and KTM. Trials bikes could have a great future if more people realized their potential as Trail bikes. Riding a MX'er on singletrack Trails is just dumb.
Yeah, aren't we about due for the factories to 'rediscover' trials? Yamaha is about 10 years OVERdue for a new TY.
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:11 PM   #109
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Yeah, aren't we about due for the factories to 'rediscover' trials? Yamaha is about 10 years OVERdue for a new TY.


Bring it!!

Love to see Honda/Montesa come out with a refined, new offering too!
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Old 05-06-2011, 01:00 PM   #110
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Yeah, aren't we about due for the factories to 'rediscover' trials? Yamaha is about 10 years OVERdue for a new TY.
Wasn't 2006 the last year for A Yamaha powered Scorpa or they don't count?
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Old 05-06-2011, 01:41 PM   #111
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...and my bike has factory identifiers (stickers, etc.) that say "HRC" (magnesium side case), "Montesa", "Cota", and "315R". So no, it ain't a Honda.

And sadly enough, my 4RT has "Honda" cast into it everywhere. Not one "HRC" logo cast on it.


Thanks for setting the record straight, PSI.
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Old 05-07-2011, 01:22 PM   #112
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Wasn't 2006 the last year for A Yamaha powered Scorpa or they don't count?
Forgot about that -- it didn't make much of an impression on the sport being basically a) a Scorpa, and b) a YZ250F mill with no real mods for trials, IIRC. Not like Yamaha's history with the TYs where they provided the foundation to keep the sport afloat for decades. Although judging on the number I ever see around here, the '90's version of the TY didn't hit the US in large enough numbers to constitute a privateer backbone like the older versions. I'd be curious to know if there's many still extant in the UK or on the continent.
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Old 05-08-2011, 11:55 PM   #113
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Forgot about that -- it didn't make much of an impression on the sport being basically a) a Scorpa, and b) a YZ250F mill with no real mods for trials, IIRC.
It seemed like a good motor to me but then maybe I just sucked

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Old 05-24-2011, 11:01 AM   #114
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...and my bike has factory identifiers (stickers, etc.) that say "HRC" (magnesium side case), "Montesa", "Cota", and "315R". So no, it ain't a Honda.
I was just trolling. don't particularly care. BUT.....

HRC but....... it's not a Honda?

Just because it's manufactured in Spain? The last of the "real" mohicans is the Cota 310. Not even the 311 is a Montesa as far as I'm concerned. But that's just me.
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Old 05-24-2011, 02:09 PM   #115
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I was just trolling. don't particularly care. BUT.....

HRC but....... it's not a Honda?

Just because it's manufactured in Spain? The last of the "real" mohicans is the Cota 310. Not even the 311 is a Montesa as far as I'm concerned. But that's just me.
you could be right, I mean Volkswagon owns Bentley Lamborghini and Bugatti, would just make sense to just call them all V-dubbya's?

BMW owns ROlls Royce, why badge them differently?

Hmmmm....
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It seemed like a good motor to me but then maybe I just sucked

If it's the bike in your picture, that looks like a two-stroke, and maybe even the Rotax motor, not the four-stroke YZ250F motor.
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If it's the bike in your picture, that looks like a two-stroke, and maybe even the Rotax motor, not the four-stroke YZ250F motor.
2 Stroke and had Yamaha on the cases
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Old 06-10-2011, 07:39 AM   #118
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Radial play on front disc?

Pulled front wheel last night to repair my most recent flat tire. Noted some radial play (in the plane of rotation) between the front brake disc and the mounts. I know it's supposed to have some side-to-side play but how much radial play is acceptable? And do you have to replace the mounting hardware or the brake disc as well?
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Old 06-10-2011, 09:34 AM   #119
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Pulled front wheel last night to repair my most recent flat tire. Noted some radial play (in the plane of rotation) between the front brake disc and the mounts. I know it's supposed to have some side-to-side play but how much radial play is acceptable? And do you have to replace the mounting hardware or the brake disc as well?
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Our bike also has this. It really doesn't seem to effect the performance. I've been thinking of some bellville washers to tighten it up.
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Old 06-10-2011, 10:06 AM   #120
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Pulled front wheel last night to repair my most recent flat tire. Noted some radial play (in the plane of rotation) between the front brake disc and the mounts. I know it's supposed to have some side-to-side play but how much radial play is acceptable? And do you have to replace the mounting hardware or the brake disc as well?
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The collars that hold the rotor to the hub can wear over the years and need to be replaced. Radial play should be minimal. Pull em off and inspect em and you'll see the wear.
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