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Old 11-14-2010, 08:47 PM   #376
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I've reported problems with stalling, etc. wanted to update, although I can't provide as much detail as I would like...

My Russian mechanics had previously thrown up their hands trying to fix the stalling problem, but I asked them to have another go, and they seem to have fixed it by replacing the throttle body and a general cleaning of that area.

It's only been a few days so far, but so far so good, although it seems to idle fairly unevenly. I've reset the throttle a couple of times by turning the key with the throttle full open, that has seemed to help at bit. If the problem recurs, I will probably try to reset the adaptation values with the GS911, as suggested in this thread.

I also installed a hyperpro shock, which I think has transformed the bike (in a good way), handling and braking seem much better.

[EDIT] Thanks to everyone on this thread for all of the helpful tips!
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Old 11-15-2010, 04:54 AM   #377
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Hi there. I own a X moto and installed a new Leo Vince slip on model from Motostrano. After that the bike refuses to idle correctly and stalls at every light. Also when I'm circulating in lower gears at low speed it stalls sometimes. My question is if you guys are aware of any specific adjustment I hould make to my bike to avoid this situation. I love the sound and quality of the Leo Vince exhaust but the stalling is becoming annoying. This does not happen with the stock setup. I haven't find, in this thread, anybody complaining about this situation. Any help or tip you can give me would be greatly appreciated.
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When I bought the LeoVince for my 650X, the dealer strongly suggested that I disconnect the battery during the installation (and then reconnect of course) so that the fuel injection control module would make required adjustments for the new exhaust. You might try that...
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Old 12-07-2010, 10:19 PM   #378
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Model: XCountry
Year: 2007
ABS: yes
Mileage at time of issue: 6000 miles
Date of occurrence: Nov. 27 2010
Modifications (if any): Wilbers 642 shock
Description of Failure(s): Oh just the REAR SWINGARM SNAPPED IN HALF on both sides on a simple dirt road!
Resolution (if any): see below for details.

5 months out of warranty, I weigh 190 and never a passenger or big bags. See below for more details than you would ever want to know.

Here is my initial full description of this issue.
Here is my full resolution of this issue with BMW, but basically I have accepted BMW NA's 2nd offer: that BMW will pay for the parts necessary to replace the swingarm, and I will pay for the labor at a BMW dealership. I have answered a lot more questions in that post, so if you are really interested then please check it out.

Another XCountry swingarm failure in Germany is described at:
http://www.sr-online.de/fernsehen/453/1006186-3.html (you can use Google toolbar in your browser to translate for you).

Also, supposedly Simon Pavey broke a XChallenge swingarm while racing (see in this thread)

Case closed! (or let's say I'm burned out from research, emails, phone calls and typing here on ADV!).
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Old 12-08-2010, 07:30 AM   #379
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Model: XCountry
Year: 2007
ABS: yes
Mileage at time of issue: 6000 miles
Date of occurrence: Nov. 27 2010
Modifications (if any): Wilbers 642 shock
Description of Failure(s): Oh just the REAR SWINGARM SNAPPED IN HALF on both sides on a simple dirt road!
Resolution (if any): None yet. 5 months out of warranty, BMW is only offering half off parts cost, nothing off of labor.

Here is a full description of this issue.
"Just how big a boy are you?" (stole that quote from some radio funny man.)

I hit 240 not too long ago.. I'm 6'5" so it's spread out, but I would suspect the the total load (rider, gear) might have something to do with it..

My XC fell off the lift this summer, and I have a deep scratch in the swingarm about where yours broke.. Yikes.. Oh well, I love the bike and I've been through some crazy stuff going too fast several times since.

Hope BMW comes around and comes through for you..
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Old 12-08-2010, 09:41 AM   #380
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I hit 240 not too long ago.. I'm 6'5" so it's spread out,


I will have to remember that one, very funny!
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Old 12-08-2010, 10:02 AM   #381
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I will have to remember that one, very funny!
Hey, I've just got heavy bones.. Besides I have a great personality, and I make all my own clothes..



Wait til after Christmas, I may be lookin at 250..
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:58 AM   #382
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Wait til after Christmas, I may be lookin at 250..
You bulking up for a movie role?
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Old 12-08-2010, 02:11 PM   #383
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"Just how big a boy are you?" (stole that quote from some radio funny man.)

I hit 240 not too long ago.. I'm 6'5" so it's spread out, but I would suspect the the total load (rider, gear) might have something to do with it..

My XC fell off the lift this summer, and I have a deep scratch in the swingarm about where yours broke.. Yikes.. Oh well, I love the bike and I've been through some crazy stuff going too fast several times since.

Hope BMW comes around and comes through for you..
Nope, 190 never a passenger or any heavy bags, prolly 20 pounds of tools, that is not the issue, check my links above for the full story.

Let's keep this thread short and sweet, this is being discussed a LOT in other threads.
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Old 12-10-2010, 10:33 AM   #384
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Fixed Mine

Had the stalling and rough idle problem. Pulled the idle actuator and cleaned with Q tips(12) and carb/choke cleaner. Put it back together then cut the crankcase hose going to the air box and plugged that end. Took janets advice and went to Auto Zone and got a $10 air filter and 3/8" double barb splice and this is how it looks.






So far no stalling and or rough idle. Has been 600-700 miles and temps here in Southern Alabama down to low 20s

Will update if problem comes back

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Old 12-11-2010, 11:17 AM   #385
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WOW! What great info about the crankcase vent.I got all the parts and will be doing mine next week.Thanks for sharing this fix.
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Old 12-12-2010, 12:42 PM   #386
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WOW! What great info about the crankcase vent.I got all the parts and will be doing mine next week.Thanks for sharing this fix.
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That is great stuff, you should ask Gadget Boy to add it to the main sticky thread perhaps! I'll be checking it out this winter.

P.S. don't go through deep creeks with this setup :)
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Old 12-13-2010, 05:26 AM   #387
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I did something sililar to my X-Moto about 3 or 4 weeks ago. I used the same filter but my hose is shorter and the filter is mounted in the up-right position.
Have you experienced any soiling of the filter from blowby? Mine seems to be turning black from it and i only put a coule of hundred miles on it like this. I am guessing its being caused from the shorter length (the oil not sticking to the sides of the hose before reaching the filter element).
If this length is working, I can do that, but if not, I may reroute it even further (maybe under the seat??????)

One other note...... My cold start issue went away for a couple of days, but I have been gone for the last 2 weeks. When I started up this morning, it died several times. Temperature here is low 30's this morning.

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Had the stalling and rough idle problem. Pulled the idle actuator and cleaned with Q tips(12) and carb/choke cleaner. Put it back together then cut the crankcase hose going to the air box and plugged that end. Took janets advice and went to Auto Zone and got a $10 air filter and 3/8" double barb splice and this is how it looks.






So far no stalling and or rough idle. Has been 600-700 miles and temps here in Southern Alabama down to low 20s

Will update if problem comes back

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Old 12-13-2010, 07:33 AM   #388
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Did I miss something, has it been concluded that the crankcase vent is a/the culprit, for dirtying up the t-body innards? Tapping it with a filter instead of having it route to the airbox might be a good idea, but I don't think it proves anything, yet.
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Old 12-13-2010, 08:03 AM   #389
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Fix

Probably not the absolute fix but having pulled the idle actuator this weekend to check the cleanliness it was still clean and didn't have all the gunk in it like before.

The pictures that i posted were the ones i took when i first did the mod. I have since also ran the hose and filter to an upright and higher position to avoid the creek crossing possibilities.

Yes the filter gets a little blackish but that tells me that at least its not getting to the idle actuator due to the cleanliness of mine with the mod.


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Old 12-13-2010, 08:37 AM   #390
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I am also running a little different fuel mix than straight out of the pump..... nothing special, just a little ChemTool for cleaning and a little Mystery Oil for lubrication.
I also use the prime twice, twist twice, prime twice start process.

I wouldn't say any of it is absolute, but I can tell ya that i just went out after 4 hours and it cranked right up.


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Probably not the absolute fix but having pulled the idle actuator this weekend to check the cleanliness it was still clean and didn't have all the gunk in it like before.

The pictures that i posted were the ones i took when i first did the mod. I have since also ran the hose and filter to an upright and higher position to avoid the creek crossing possibilities.

Yes the filter gets a little blackish but that tells me that at least its not getting to the idle actuator due to the cleanliness of mine with the mod.


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