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Old 03-22-2015, 03:15 PM   #1
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fixing a pvc pipe

I discovered a small puddle of water on the floor in my basement bathroom. Pedestal sink. With a flashlight in hand, I discovered a hairline crack in the pipe.

My question: use an epoxy to fix the crack or replace the pipe? I'm no plumber, not sure where to even start.

A few pics. Crack is visible in the second pic, to the left of where the light reflects off the pipe.

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Old 03-22-2015, 03:21 PM   #2
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That's ABS, not PVC. It's a drain line so there's no pressure on the line. Can't imagine why it failed in the first place.

For the cost to replace those parts you'd be better off just replacing it than playing with repair attempts. You're not looking at $25 in materials I wouldn't think.
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Old 03-22-2015, 03:21 PM   #3
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Personally I'd replace the pipe. You're talking less than $10 in fittings, maybe some PVC glue if you don't have it. Bring in the old pipe to Home Depot and match it up. Watch a YouTube video on PVC glue but it's not hard.

EDiIT maybe not PVC? Either way replace
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Old 03-22-2015, 03:26 PM   #4
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for a quick temporary fix, wrap it tightly with electrical tape, you are going to have to cut it off at the joint where the first elbow is glued to the straight pipe coming out of the wall, losing half to 3/4 inch in length, make sure that does not screw up the spacing of where it hooks to the drain on the sink
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Old 03-22-2015, 03:29 PM   #5
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Replace it....you already did the hard part.
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Old 03-22-2015, 03:30 PM   #6
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That's ABS, not PVC. It's a drain line so there's no pressure on the line. Can't imagine why it failed in the first place.

For the cost to replace those parts you'd be better off just replacing it than playing with repair attempts. You're not looking at $25 in materials I wouldn't think.
I suspect I was the cause. The drain trap had a minor leak. I tried to tighten it but couldn't get a great grip. I tried to see if I could pull the bottom part of the pedestal forward. I applied a little upward pressure to the sink. Dumb move, I know.

How do I separate all the pipe if I go the replacement route? Cut the pipe with a hack saw? If I lose 1/2 to 3/4 inch of pipe, how do I make that up to ensure I can align the sink drain once again?

I may have answered my own question: before I remove anything, I will measure the exact distance from the wall to the centre of the existing down pipe. Any lost inches could be made up with some additional fittings, I suspect.

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Old 03-22-2015, 03:39 PM   #7
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it's a simple fix but you know nothing about how to do it. Call a plumier or a friend that has done it before. watch them and learn.
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Old 03-22-2015, 04:40 PM   #8
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you are going to have to cut it off at the joint where the first elbow is glued to the straight pipe coming out of the wall, losing half to 3/4 inch in length, make sure that does not screw up the spacing of where it hooks to the drain on the sink
^^^^ This... Cut it off with a hacksaw at the first fitting and get a new elbow trap and pipe cement. A little sandpaper rub where the fittings mate.

Dry fit it first before putting any glue on.
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Maggot12 - thanks.
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Old 03-22-2015, 05:02 PM   #10
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Maggot12 - thanks.
You're welcome... also, in your case the first 90, the U trap, and the verticle piece are glued together.

Take your pieces to home depot with you and they have a combined unit that has twist couplings on either end of the U, so you won't have to make all those glued joints. Only the joint at the first 90 coming out of the wall.
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You're welcome... also, in your case the first 90, the U trap, and the verticle piece are glued together.

Take your pieces to home depot with you and they have a combined unit that has twist couplings on either end of the U, so you won't have to make all those glued joints. Only the joint at the first 90 coming out of the wall.
That's what I'll do. I appreciate your help.

Just finished with the hacksaw.

The joint at the first 90 coming out of the wall had an edge from the elbow (I cut into the elbow). I recut / removed the edge so the new unit should fit.

It's a learning process. I'll post up pics when finished.

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Sand the pipe coming off the wall to clean off any small filings from your cut. Clean off the burrs on the inside of the pipe as well.
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Very few plumbers use that set up as it is not adjustable. Get a 1 1/2 in trap adapter slip fitting and glue it to the pipe, (trap arm) coming out of the wall. Get a "P" trap kit and slide it in but do not tighten any of the fitting. put sink back in and and adjust it, (slides in and out) then tighten all fittings.

You will need abs glue also.


http://www.lowes.com/pd_75356-137-CL...r|1&facetInfo=

http://www.lowes.com/pd_24650-143-40...cetInfo=P-trap
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Old 03-22-2015, 07:05 PM   #14
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Very few plumbers use that set up as it is not adjustable. Get a 1 1/2 in trap adapter slip fitting and glue it to the pipe, (trap arm) coming out of the wall. Get a "P" trap kit and slide it in but do not tighten any of the fitting. put sink back in and and adjust it, (slides in and out) then tighten all fittings.

You will need abs glue also.


http://www.lowes.com/pd_75356-137-CL...r|1&facetInfo=

http://www.lowes.com/pd_24650-143-40...cetInfo=P-trap
That makes a lot of sense. Much appreciated.
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Old 03-23-2015, 04:48 PM   #15
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Very few plumbers use that set up as it is not adjustable. Get a 1 1/2 in trap adapter slip fitting and glue it to the pipe, (trap arm) coming out of the wall. Get a "P" trap kit and slide it in but do not tighten any of the fitting. put sink back in and and adjust it, (slides in and out) then tighten all fittings.

You will need abs glue also.


http://www.lowes.com/pd_75356-137-CL...r|1&facetInfo=

http://www.lowes.com/pd_24650-143-40...cetInfo=P-trap

Yes, exactly this. It has far more adjustability and if your wife looses an ear ring down the sink, you can pull it apart and retrieve it.


Edit: I see the old setup has a plug on the bottom but it is more pleasant to remove a p-trap and try and remove a plug behind a sink base.
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