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Old 05-23-2014, 06:07 PM   #1
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Fly and Ride this last day and half with my New Hack

Just bought DirtDabber's hack. My 9 year old and I flew down yesterday to TN and rode Hack back to its new home 1286 miles away. Yes, we did 1286 in a day and half. I was quite impressed with my daughter.

Anyway, one question that i would like to hear input on. I am a bigger guy then DirtDabber and i notice that when i sit on the bike, the bike is leaning left quite a bit. The side car has a electric leveler and that is bottomed out all the way and i am still leaning left.

How do i set this?? Do i run the electric leveler up and down and find mid point, then level out the bike while i set on it?? Waiting for some responses, i will continue to do some more looking on this topic.
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Old 05-23-2014, 06:16 PM   #2
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Stiffen up the rear suspension?
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Old 05-24-2014, 05:38 AM   #3
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Sounds like you need to upgrade the springs/suspension on the bike.
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Old 05-24-2014, 09:49 AM   #4
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There is a preload adjuster. Make sure it is cranked up to the firmest setting.

You may need a stiffer rear spring for your weight if that doesn't work.

I seem to fit in the manufacturers weight range for most bikes so I haven't had to deal with suspension, height seems to be my nemesis....
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Old 05-24-2014, 09:58 AM   #5
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There is a preload adjuster. Make sure it is cranked up to the firmest setting.

You may need a stiffer rear spring for your weight if that doesn't work.

I seem to fit in the manufacturers weight range for most bikes so I haven't had to deal with suspension, height seems to be my nemesis....

Yah i checked that halfway through the trip. I was looking today and the bike just sitting looks like it leaning just a little bit to the left, even when the sidecar is bottomed all the way down. Other then this little issue, the bike rode like a dream. Love it. A little under powered in some cases of head wind and up big hills, but its not everyday you going to cruise interstate speeds with this setup. When i got off interstate, on hwy's set at 60-65 the bike really good.

LOVE IT.
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Old 05-24-2014, 10:13 AM   #6
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There is a lot of wind resistance on interstate with that big faring up front. I found it to be very happy on the back roads. Of course that is where I find myself to be very happy as well. I had some great trips with my kids and know your kids will enjoy it as well.

This guy has grown 6 inches in the year and a half since this was taken.

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Old 05-24-2014, 12:01 PM   #7
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I'm certainly no expert but I kinda disagree with these other responses. I think you should leave the suspension as is, don't crank down the pre-load as that will not only put a lot of stress on the pre-load adjuster but will also stiffen up the ride and reduce the available travel.

I'd do just what the OP proposed. Loosen the two bolts where the lower struts attach to the bike, then loosen the upper struts and start cranking in the adjustment rods. Make sure you count the turns and turn the back and the front adjusters the same amount. You can do this solo, using trial and error. I did this myself several times during the first year that I owned WUMPA.
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Old 05-24-2014, 01:39 PM   #8
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get you one of these

http://www.harborfreight.com/dial-ga...der-34214.html

check the tug with you off the rig and check it with you on it

make changes to the tug from there
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Old 05-24-2014, 02:25 PM   #9
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get you one of these

http://www.harborfreight.com/dial-ga...der-34214.html

check the tug with you off the rig and check it with you on it

make changes to the tug from there
I down loaded a free app for my smart phone which does the same thing. The one above might be easier to use & see.
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Old 05-24-2014, 03:04 PM   #10
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My rig tends to pull to the right just a bit, depending upon the crown of the road, of course, and backing my preload on the tug from 5 of 7 all the down to 1 (the least preload) made virtually no difference. As I understand things, your bike must lean to the left just a bit in order for the trail at the front to pull the bike away from the chair just a bit in order to run straight. So I would begin with your range of electric travel in the middle and the bike leaning away just a bit while tweaking the toe-in of the chair wheel. My chair wheel has only 3" lead and I have it toed in about an inch in the length of the bike wheelbase in order to lean the tug just as little as possible.
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Old 05-24-2014, 03:42 PM   #11
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I'm certainly no expert but I kinda disagree with these other responses. I think you should leave the suspension as is, don't crank down the pre-load as that will not only put a lot of stress on the pre-load adjuster but will also stiffen up the ride and reduce the available travel.

I'd do just what the OP proposed. Loosen the two bolts where the lower struts attach to the bike, then loosen the upper struts and start cranking in the adjustment rods. Make sure you count the turns and turn the back and the front adjusters the same amount. You can do this solo, using trial and error. I did this myself several times during the first year that I owned WUMPA.


You never cease to impress me. I tunnel visioned right in on suspension instead of a simple leanout adjustment.
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Old 05-24-2014, 04:15 PM   #12
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You never cease to impress me. I tunnel visioned right in on suspension instead of a simple leanout adjustment.
I'm just thinking about that plush ride and how I wouldn't want to do anything to make it harsh!
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Old 05-24-2014, 04:45 PM   #13
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Yah that was what I was thinking also. The suspension is just fine. I am thinking of adjusting the lean a little bit. But when I adjust the lean where do I set the sidecar as level with the electric controls.

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Old 05-24-2014, 05:27 PM   #14
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For my Ural, the setup is to get the hack frame level, with the tug having a 2-3 degree leanout. The leanout was supposed to set you level when the tug is riding the crown of the road. Of course in florida crowns are mostly in the middle of the lane from the huge overloaded trucks pounding the tire track areas into the subsoil

Be sure to mark your original settings so if you find your adjustment makes things worse you can get back to the good ride you have now.

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Old 05-24-2014, 06:57 PM   #15
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Don't have experience setting up with electric lean but assume you want to start in a neutral setting..(no lean in or out)... Drone or someone with more experience with this setup could probably provide that information... But for the tug-car setup up follow the yellow book. If that is not handy.. Hal Kendall's info on setup can be found on the USCA website. Had some handling concerns when I got my first rig and was able to use that info to set the rig for my comfort.
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