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Old 05-26-2013, 03:47 PM   #1
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Neon's urban vendor sidecar experiment

I have an idea and I need some help getting it into motion. I want to make a vendor sidecar, like the millions of different ones I saw in Thailand. Something like this:



I want to start a business out of something like this. I just rode my Honda vt500 Ascot across the states and ended up in Boston, MA, where I am currently sleeping on a friend's couch. I did get a job with a catering company, of which my seven-day work week begins this coming Wednesday, but I am kind of spontaneous and have these far-fetched ideas which I usually take off running at, and sometimes they don't just go completely south. The point is it would be dope.

I still need to learn tons about all the local regulations, and I won't be entirely surprised if the idea of getting the permissions to sell food or drink off the side of a motorcycle isn't totally ludicrous to start. Then I'll need to really think and decide what I will be selling from it. I was thinking something practical like a coffee and espresso bar with bagels and pastries and stuff, and better coffee than the starbucks everyone drinks. It would certainly be unique and I think that lots of people would really like to stop and get a quick pick-me-up right off the sidewalk, especially in the busy business and college areas and roads downtown.

First thing first (well, after making sure the idea is even possible of course) I need to build the sidecar. That is one of those things I need help with since I don't even know the first place to start when it comes to sidecars. Any guides on making sidecars that you know of, or websites that sell kits, any input/help would be appreciated.

And anyone who helps me get the ball rolling on this gets free coffee and high-fives for life.

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Old 05-26-2013, 05:15 PM   #2
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sounds like a cool idea .... best of luck



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Old 05-26-2013, 06:46 PM   #3
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Here's a good picture of a basic foundation. I'd like to start with something like this:



I want to know how that type of car is attached to the bike. I assume it is mounted at the frame, but does the bike lean? Where do I connect it and how do I measure it to my specific bike? These are the things i need to learn.
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Old 05-26-2013, 07:57 PM   #4
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This is where you should be.... http://www.advrider.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=56 with the hacks
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Old 05-26-2013, 07:58 PM   #5
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Get a link to/from the hack section.

http://advrider.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=56

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Old 05-26-2013, 09:53 PM   #6
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Thread moved

New thread location: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=890355

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Old 05-27-2013, 07:23 AM   #7
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If you have no practical fabrication/building/sidecar experience off the shelf parts seem to be the most realistic solution.

There are several vendors who offer bolt on sidecar mounts and everything else needed. DMC is just one of them
http://www.dmcsidecars.com/

Or you could buy a Ural ready to ride, take the tub off and bolt one of these on:



Good luck, keep this thread updated I would like to see where this idea goes
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Old 05-27-2013, 07:27 AM   #8
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DMC sells this

http://www.dmcsidecars.com/sidecars/sidecar-frame/

Or this w/o the seat

http://www.dmcsidecars.com/sidecars/enduro/

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Old 05-27-2013, 07:51 AM   #9
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The technical side seems easy - I think the hard part will be getting a vending permit.

The first place I'd start would be with whatever jurisdiction you planned on selling your wares in. They probably have very specific rules regarding what is allowed. Your better off trying to meet those rules upfront vs. trying to retrofit your junk to meet them after the fact...
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Old 05-27-2013, 08:01 AM   #10
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Anything "DMC" is gonna be good. They also have mounting kits for popular bikes that would help the DIY type guy get moving in the right direction.

Why am I hungry for vendor treats now?

Dang. Anyone got a corn dog or gator on a stick?
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Or .....

You could import one of these.....

http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/dn...tml?sort=3&o=0

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Old 05-29-2013, 07:36 AM   #12
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We built an entire fleet for cool cycles www.coolcyclesicecream.com and would be glad to help you with this.
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:11 AM   #13
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The technical side seems easy - I think the hard part will be getting a vending permit.

The first place I'd start would be with whatever jurisdiction you planned on selling your wares in. They probably have very specific rules regarding what is allowed. Your better off trying to meet those rules upfront vs. trying to retrofit your junk to meet them after the fact...
Right on about that
Figure out the requirements/permits FIRST to see if you can/want to proceed
Otherwise the rest of this exercise could very well be a pointless waste of time, money and effort.
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Old 05-29-2013, 10:29 AM   #14
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State laws...

Check on your state laws regarding what is needed for permitting a cart. I did a ton of research on this and found an utter ASSLOAD of used non-permitted carts that could not be upgraded easily (if you are handy the extra sinks and such can be added.) NOTE: There is no consistency between states and you will loose your mind. Check on local permits for vending as well. Some towns are bastards about it.

My two cents, .000000000000029781 after the new tax plan.

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