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Old 04-16-2015, 11:11 AM   #1
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Question What's it worth?

I've recently come across an '86 R65 which my buddy, the original owner wants to sell. It's in very good shape, new pipes, tires and looks really, really clean. Been sitting in his heated garage on a shelf for the last 7 years, but he insists it runs perfectly. It has about 30k kms on it. Has the Krauser bags, tank bag, a front fairing off a K bike and cafe bars, and a few extra parts in a box. I've never owned an air cooled boxer, and don't know much about them, but it seems like a great way to get introduced to them. It wouldn't be my only bike, currently have a few bikes including a 2014 GSA, but thought it might make a great project bike and a great sunday country ride. Long story short, I have no idea what this bike might be worth. My buddy is pretty firm on 4500$ (Can$) or 4100 (US$). I realize it's hard to give a price without pics. and more details. I guess I'm just trying to get an idea if this price is way out of whack or in the ballpark for a reasonable price. Any insight is appreciated...
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Old 04-16-2015, 11:20 AM   #2
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Buying bikes from buddies...can't see any problem there.

Anyway, I don't know the specifics on that year/model, but the mileage is pretty low, so it might be a great bike, and thus well worth the money. But it's not a low price.

Still, there are all sorts of maintenance issues that any airhead that's been sitting that long could/will require. Are you going to work on it yourself? Does he work on bikes? Maybe one could form an agreement to split the cost of any immediately required repairs such as: push rod tube seals, and pretty much any other seal, etc.
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Old 04-16-2015, 11:48 AM   #3
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There's a few recent threads on here concerning R65s and how great they are. They also make a great first airhead, too.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1054258

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1037619

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=683290

These might be worth looking through for ideas/cost/maintenance.
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Old 04-16-2015, 12:14 PM   #4
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Great bike, but non-op for 7 years means you will be putting in several hundred dollars or more in basic maintenance parts (fluids, filters, carb kits,etc.), and probably more to address the hydraulics in the braking system. I would also think about replacing tires just due to age. Without pictures or any other info, it sounds like a $3000(US) bike, not a $4000 bike. So, not highway robbery, but not a deal.

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Old 04-16-2015, 01:28 PM   #5
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If he got it off the shelf (whatever that means) and put a fresh battery, tires and fluids, got running nice and idling nice, maybe 4000 US would be OK.
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Old 04-16-2015, 01:42 PM   #6
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Don't forget to put the pushrod seals and some other engine seals on the to-do-after-500mls-list because they probably will start leaking after a few rides just because they dried out.
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Old 04-16-2015, 02:11 PM   #7
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If he got it off the shelf (whatever that means) and put a fresh battery, tires and fluids, got running nice and idling nice, maybe 4000 US would be OK.
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Old 04-16-2015, 02:12 PM   #8
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An 86 would be a monoshock R80 frame. That is the least desirable configuration, heavier and not as agile as the earlier model.
I've seen clean, low mileage small frames struggle to top $2,500.
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Old 04-16-2015, 02:13 PM   #9
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Although the interweb has changed things, location matters, a lot. Where is "Bainsville"?
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Old 04-16-2015, 04:20 PM   #10
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Being shelved for 7 years is a bad thing. Rubber parts dry out and deteriorate, fluids go bad, things get clogged....yada yada. 4500 is crazy talk....I wouldn't pay more than 1500.
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Being shelved for 7 years is a bad thing. Rubber parts dry out and deteriorate, fluids go bad, things get clogged....yada yada. 4500 is crazy talk....I wouldn't pay more than 1500.
Honestly I wonder if thats a rule hard and fast or just a distinct possibility. My 92 RS sat in a basement for ten years with a lot of other bikes. The only issue I found was the diode board mounts rotted.
My 99 honda only had 3500 miles last season. So it sat a lot and no issues.
Not to be contrary Miss!
But agreed on 4500 is crazy. I think this bike is at the moment, the least desireable model and should be around 2500 in good running condition. but who knows what anything will fetch anymore. Prices are all over the place. I know a nice looking R65 was for sale locally here priced at 2500 for a long long time. No idea what it finally sold for.
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Thumb Thanks to all for the input...

Thanks to all for the input on this. Just to answer a few of the questions, Bainsville is a 'one horse town' at the very east end of Ontario, on the Quebec border. "On a shelf" is exactly that, it's been up on a very strong shelf in a heated garage, along with a 1950's Harley. I agree that not being driven is not necessarily a good thing, perhaps mitigated somewhat by the fact that the garage was heated and the bike was stored with some care taken towards the seals, fluids, etc. But I also agree that things will come up as she starts to run again. I also agree that dealing with buddies is not always a good idea, and 4500$, even in our lowly Can currency, is at the absolute high end. I'd love to get it for less but that might not be possible if I want this bike, but he has promised that it'll be running well for that price. What happens after 500kms will be on my head I suspect, good ol' "tail light warranty"! No surprise that opinions vary on this particular model, many love them, and many insist they are the "least desirable" model. All that is to say, I do appreciate the advice, have always found people on here to be extremely knowledgeable and helpful, so thanks. Cheers...
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Thanks to all for the input on this. Just to answer a few of the questions, Bainsville is a 'one horse town' at the very east end of Ontario, on the Quebec border. "On a shelf" is exactly that, it's been up on a very strong shelf in a heated garage, along with a 1950's Harley. I agree that not being driven is not necessarily a good thing, perhaps mitigated somewhat by the fact that the garage was heated and the bike was stored with some care taken towards the seals, fluids, etc. But I also agree that things will come up as she starts to run again. I also agree that dealing with buddies is not always a good idea, and 4500$, even in our lowly Can currency, is at the absolute high end. I'd love to get it for less but that might not be possible if I want this bike, but he has promised that it'll be running well for that price. What happens after 500kms will be on my head I suspect, good ol' "tail light warranty"! No surprise that opinions vary on this particular model, many love them, and many insist they are the "least desirable" model. All that is to say, I do appreciate the advice, have always found people on here to be extremely knowledgeable and helpful, so thanks. Cheers...
Let me just say that while I THINK they are the least desirable model I mean that they may fetch the lowest price. I also may be wrong. And I personally find them as desirable as any other.
Also I may be completely wrong!
With airheads it's about what is available when you are looking.
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Old Yesterday, 12:53 PM   #14
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I just payed $4300 for an '87 R65 with 20,000k that has been in storage for 9 years.

So your price is about the same. Mind you this was Vancouver, and we all know Vancouver is a bourgeois town.

If you get it we should keep in touch, a tale of two R65's just out of storage. See who replaces more parts first!

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You found an 87 r65 with 20k in Vancouver? I'm jealous. I'm in langley with a 94 r100 mystic. Just got my collector plates!


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