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Old 09-04-2009, 11:15 AM   #16
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More than agree! Superbird just brilliant bike by any means.

To be fair - that 700 Deauville engine probably is bulletproof and being undertuned does not need valves work for a while.
But what pissed me off - it is consumables that need changing with such pain in the...back side....

Tyre change? See above.
Coolant change? Tricky.
Electrics - I won't even touch that subject. Spark plugs? Oh God, please spare me!
Even brake pads is pain in the a...se because of sliding calipers need to be taken off for that and rear one hardly fits into rear rim...

That friend of mine could not believe his eyes when I took my DR800 apart in 30 minutes on patch of grass in camping in mountains, checked all electrics (because of bike age wire soldered to lights switch simply rotten off it :)) identified problem and fixed it with couple of alien keys and soldering piece. All in all - 45 mins.
But he was also surprised when I changed spark plugs in my VTR Firestorm (superhawk) that required simple taking seat off

No, I am no luddist type. I am ex-engineer from engineers family. Mechanical devices must be serviceable as much as possible. Rule...
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:17 AM   #17
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Valve adjustment on an FZ6 is 26k miles. It has no lower fairing, and comes stock with a centerstand.

I think I know where my middleweight touring dollars are going.
I rode CB600F Hornet from year 2000 and NEVER had to adjust valves or do anything except consumables. Try to service FJR and then we will talk

Or latest Diversion. Try it.
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:36 AM   #18
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I rode CB600F Hornet from year 2000 and NEVER had to adjust valves or do anything except consumables. Try to service FJR and then we will talk

Or latest Diversion. Try it.
I found my FJR quite easy to work on. Even the valve check was no big deal.
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:40 AM   #19
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I found my FJR quite easy to work on. Even the valve check was no big deal.
For sporttourer - yes, certainly not worse than ST, rather easier.
All is relative of course. I consider contemporary approach to amount of effort required to change consumables in some bikes and most of cars really strange, because it it totally opposite to what is happening in industrial world.
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Old 09-04-2009, 01:20 PM   #20
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Over in U-rip they call this bike the "Dullville". No CBF1000. No Veradero. Lucky us.
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Old 09-04-2009, 01:47 PM   #21
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Over in U-rip they call this bike the "Dullville". No CBF1000. No Veradero. Lucky us.
The CBF1000 is Honda's My First Litre Bike. It's a seamless I4. It's good.

The Varadero is a fat road-bike bike for big and fat men. If that's what you need, it is also very good.

The Deauville is something in between; likeable VTwin engine; usuable power; reliable; and quite portly.

Putting aside the fact you guys should have got the new Transalp, it's an excellent vehicle
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Old 09-04-2009, 01:48 PM   #22
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Over in UK they call it "Dullsville", not "Dullville"

http://www.yourdictionary.com/dullsville


Of course something built by OCC is much more enterntaining I can't argue on that

No offence, just kidding.
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Old 09-04-2009, 02:00 PM   #23
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Well I was excited to see the Deauville is coming to America. I definitely believe there is a market for a light weight tourer - but after reading some of the posts in this thread,
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Old 09-04-2009, 02:48 PM   #24
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The CBF1000 is Honda's My First Litre Bike. It's a seamless I4. It's good.
Canada gets the CBF1000. I had the chance to ride one last week. Very well equipped bike, a little too upright for me, and that motor could very well be electric - seamless power, but a bit uninspiring.
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:11 PM   #25
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Valve adjustment on an FZ6 is 26k miles. It has no lower fairing, and comes stock with a centerstand.

I think I know where my middleweight touring dollars are going.
And you'll have about $4,000 left over for bags, farkles and gas. I think I'm with you on this one.
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:46 PM   #26
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Good from a conceptual standpoint, but it's ugly, overweight and over priced in my mind. As far as europe only bikes it would have been on the bottom of my wish list.

Much rather have seen a CB1300(either version), Transalp(although I seen some say it's low quality which sucks), and definately the CB1000R as I think it has real market appeal. Varedo would have came before this thing too.......
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Old 09-04-2009, 09:36 PM   #27
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I like it...

......perfect competitor to V-Strom. Shaft drive gives it a different spin. Nice to have choices in the marketplace.

I love my V-Strom. This bike could lure me away with the shaft drive.

Thanks, Honda for giving me a choice.
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:56 PM   #28
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......perfect competitor to V-Strom. Shaft drive gives it a different spin. Nice to have choices in the marketplace.

I love my V-Strom. This bike could lure me away with the shaft drive.

Thanks, Honda for giving me a choice.
I've been wishing for this bike in the US for forever. But if the maintenance is difficult, I'll be happy to keep my V-Strom.
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Old 09-05-2009, 12:04 AM   #29
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Further proof that Honda has gone completely off the rails.
Amen. Of all the Euro bikes to bring here, why the Dullville?
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Old 09-05-2009, 12:20 AM   #30
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My guess is that the Wee-strom trumps this bike in the fun/versatility category, but it is a very nice package. I have to eat my words after bashing Honda for the DN-01 debacle.


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