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Old 09-07-2009, 11:44 AM   #91
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I loved my 1997 VFR (at 1997 VFR prices). However today's VFR's seem a bit pricey to me....

The DV should be a grand cheaper, IMHO and they'd prolly sell a ton of 'em.
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:31 PM   #92
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The VFR is a great bike- but people are weird. They'll pay big $$ for a bike with a European nameplate, but somehow feel that despite their deep-rooted knowledge of Honda quality, can't see themselves paying too much for a "Japanese bike". I've seen it- I don't know if it's latent racism, mere snobbery from marketing way back- but I will tell you that the VFR possesses plenty of trick bits- but it's not cruiserish enough, and it's not being ridden by Spies et al. so it's hard to be a poseur. It's simply a decent motorcycle with high build quality- and sadly, it's been a financial downer every time I've stocked them.

Great bike- but sadly ignored by legions of pirates and stuntaz who make up the bulk of the market.
that's why honda has accura, toyota has lexus etc.
people only pay so much for a name so they came up with new companies.
maybe that will catch on with japanese bikes one day
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:33 PM   #93
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yes the wee has some very cheaped out factorty parts to get it at that price point.
adding hardbags alone is $600-800 for good ones.
a shaft drive has to cost $500+
this bike has better fairing & screen.
i think the pricing is very much in line for this bike.


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As discussed earlier, the F800ST is VERY close in spec, albeit considerably more expensive.

While this Honda is a bit expensive, the outcry that it is priced to the moon is unjustified. It's about $2K more than a Strom, but it has integral luggage and shaft drive, both relatively expensive features, and the Strom is renowned for being a very cheap bike. And the F800ST, the bike that really is close in spec, is about $2.5K more once you buy the bags and mounts for it. Everything being considered, it really is priced like all Hondas these days - a little higher than the competition.

All in all, the pricing is a little high, but no where near DN-01 levels.

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Old 09-07-2009, 02:38 PM   #94
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i disagree. i think it's price right & will sell well.
rental companies & older riders alone will use plenty of these bikes.

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At $7,500 and $8,000, this bike would have been a dull but solid success in the states -- the spiritual successor to the old Concours -- the low-cost, high-value, sport tourer that isn't sexy but works well and everyone can afford.

At $10,000 and $11,000, it's dead on arrival. Honda NA will sell about as many of these as the $15,000+ DN-01's.

This at a time when bike sales are down 40-50% because of the economy, and there's no employment recovery in sight.

I don't know what the heck Honda NA is thinking. Sometimes I think there's someone in the organization who secretly hates the motorcycle business and is trying to kill it.
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Old 09-07-2009, 07:44 PM   #95
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People continue to buy R1200Gs's at what might be seen as an outrageous sum. Why is that?
Its a niche bike with great marketing for the past 20 years so people buy into it. Honda is not a niche bike company, they seemingly are moving more and more into that territory though. I miss old Honda, a good reliable mass produced vehicle with decent performance at an easily affordable price.
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:45 PM   #96
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The Pacific Coast was $ 8995 back in 1989.
And as a frame of reference, so was the GL1500 GoldWing Aspencade.
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Old 09-07-2009, 09:00 PM   #97
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I'm waiting to see how the VFR(ST?)1200 looks, but I'll test ride both the NT and 1200. Honestly, the NT looks like just about everything I'd need/want, and likely at a heck of a price advantage over the upcoming 1200 V4.

With all that said, it sure is hard to not go grab a CBR1000RR at $6983 as mentioned in another thread.
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Old 09-08-2009, 09:24 AM   #98
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Did anybody notice it has a CENTERSTAND?
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Old 09-08-2009, 09:31 AM   #99
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It baffles me how the US gets a smaller selection of Honda bikes than my tiny country.
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:23 PM   #100
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I think it may be a stroke of genius when compared in price to the ST and Gold Wing. Bmw seems to sell slow bikes that are underpowered for big bucks and folks eat them up. I wonder about heated grips and accessories for that bike?
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:39 PM   #101
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An R1200RT starts at about $ 16,500.

That Dullsville looks pretty good in that light. Yeah, I know the RT has way more everything, but it's also more than half a bike more.
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:51 PM   #102
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It baffles me how the US gets a smaller selection of Honda bikes than my tiny country.
& the ones we get are often subpar models to other countries.
we get the lame 230L as our small dualsport while a modern xr250 exists elsewhere & then compare that to the wr250r that yamaha sells.

honda NA makes some very poor decessions on what bikes they think will sell & chose to import.
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Old 09-08-2009, 03:32 PM   #103
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From the ST-Owners site:
A friend has campaigned a NT650 Deauville for years and has recently upgraded to the NT700. I have had a bit of saddle time on both and would comment:-

- You do not notice the weight at all and it is very well balanced (but this is coming from a man who uses a CB1300 as a commuter).

- The NT700 has a reshaped seat which makes reaching the ground much easier. My mate is 5'7" and can flat foot it which he could not do on the old one.

- It is a brilliant commuter which is also fine for one up touring.

- This is not a sports tourer and will definitely not stretch your arms. Power is adequate however just don't expect it to torque its way up steep hills like the ST.

- Fuel capacity is 19 litres (real as I helped him push it to the bowser) You will get great economy however between 4 & 5 litres per 100klm which in the real world means you are looking for fuel at about 350klm and starting to sweat at 400klm.

- Motor is absolutely bullet proof and simple to service. The NT650 was a carby unit and whilst super simple you would not look at it now with the NT700.

- The term "Dullsville" comes from the UK motorcycling press who regretfully consist of immature tossers who are obsessed with sports bikes. Not everyone wants/needs to travel at 200kph everywhere grinding hero knobs and chewing out tires. If you want a sports bike just buy one. If you want a long lived mega reliable commuter and light tourer the NT may well be for you.
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:43 PM   #104
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Available in metallic red or metallic silver, the 2010 NT700V retails for $9,999. The ABS version is only available in Metallic Silver with an MSRP of $10,999.

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufactur...led-88719.html
Not a bad price.
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Old 09-09-2009, 07:36 PM   #105
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I'm getting ride of my DL650 to get one.

Yup it's not the most exciting bike in motorcycledom
It's not the latest and greatest

But what it will be for me
a bike that with a top box will make a great all around bike.
and I can carry a ton of stuff while still splitting lanes.

I also wish that it would come with a VTR1000F engine and about 100 pounds less weight. With a 200mile range.

But that's not going to happen.
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