Honda Deauville (NT700V) Discussion Thread - Page 8

Towjam · 09-10-2009, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squish

I'm getting ride of my DL650 to get one.

Yup it's not the most exciting bike in motorcycledom
It's not the latest and greatest

But what it will be for me
a bike that with a top box will make a great all around bike.
and I can carry a ton of stuff while still splitting lanes...

...and seeing that it has been around on the other side of the pond for a number of years, it won't have those typical "first model year bugs".

I think this bike is going to do well for Honda North America.

bluesman · 09-10-2009, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squish

I'm getting ride of my DL650 to get one.

Yup it's not the most exciting bike in motorcycledom
It's not the latest and greatest

But what it will be for me
a bike that with a top box will make a great all around bike.
and I can carry a ton of stuff while still splitting lanes.

I also wish that it would come with a VTR1000F engine and about 100 pounds less weight. With a 200mile range.

But that's not going to happen.

Soft spot for me (VTR1000F in the garage) but about fuel.

It does have 200 mile range, I mean current NT700V. Yep, no such chance with VTR1000F engine

but with current mill it proved it can do at least 330 km between stops. My friend did not push it beyond 330 as we did not want to get group stuck somewhere in forrest in Norway, but he did ride quite fast, so I think range is good.

kconville · 09-11-2009, 01:53 AM

A couple of observations:

The bike looks pretty good to me and I agree that it seems a refreshing alternative to the huge, over-engined alternatives.

The one piece, non removable bags are kind of a turn off for several reasons.

Where is anyone deriving this hydraulic valves dream from? Sounds like wishful thinking not based in reality.

I don't think it's especially pricey considering it's standard equipment, though no bargain either.

Ease of maintenance and it's frequency is a big issue for me and will be a deal breaker if it proves to be a PITA.

No doubt Honda is one goofy company these days, and in recent years. The so called super conservative Honda when they bust loose give us circus bikes like the Valkyrie Rune and the DN-01 all the while denying us any decent dual sport machines that the rest of the world enjoys. They recently honored us (the US) with allowing us to buy their 150cc scooter for $4600! While the CRF230L sells for the same but has technology hearkening back to the 1970s. Oh boy. But, I digress...

I'll try to keep an open mind about this new "tourer" and eagerly await more feedback.

maydaymike · 09-11-2009, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Where is anyone deriving this hydraulic valves dream from? Sounds like wishful thinking not based in reality.

I think it's coming from the people that are looking for the the second coming of the PC800. Removing all the tupperware was a pain, but you hardly ever had to do it. The hydraulic lifters in the PC engine meant that maintenence consisted of fluid changes and tires.

MotoEdde · 09-11-2009, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maydaymike

I think it's coming from the people that are looking for the the second coming of the PC800. Removing all the tupperware was a pain, but you hardly ever had to do it. The hydraulic lifters in the PC engine meant that maintenence consisted of fluid changes and tires.

It doesn't come with hydraulic valves...they're adjusted with a screw. Thankfully not shims!

wannaklr · 09-11-2009, 10:02 AM

I thought it came with hydraulic valves and said so on the first page of this thread. My bad, I was hoping it had them and thought I read it somewhere.

Vader · 09-11-2009, 10:10 AM

Does anyone know how often does the NT700V need valve inspection?

8k, 16k?

Gradall · 09-11-2009, 12:43 PM

an observation...
Why does it have the tip over skid plates and non removable luggage???? Won't the luggage catch the ground before the skid plate????

bluesman · 09-11-2009, 12:52 PM

No, it wont. Do not ask me why, but when my friend went down in Norway (3 times actually) in a) straightforward tip over b)slow speed low side c)missing balance in ultra-slow turn as he is very short guy
he broke (pushed in) front indicator, bent gearchange link a bit and hit mirror and that skid plate. And Honda optional bellypan cracked.
Beats me, but that's fact - and he has XL sized side pannier covers. But it would not miss handguards and if it would have dropped to other side it might have gotten exhaust damaged.

arkline · 09-11-2009, 01:12 PM

Does anyone have a link to a site that has something more than the brochure's specifications? I'd be interested in GVW and how many Watts the alternator is capable of producing. Or do I have to wait for an article in MCN or Cycle World?

bluesman · 09-11-2009, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arkline

Does anyone have a link to a site that has something more than the brochure's specifications? I'd be interested in GVW and how many Watts the alternator is capable of producing. Or do I have to wait for an article in MCN or Cycle World?

Dig European internet via www.google.co.uk etc.
This subtype of Deauville been out since 2008 and plenty sold, e.g. plenty of info.

PaMtbRider · 09-11-2009, 02:29 PM

I didn't see this posted yet, but info is on the Honda website
http://powersports.honda.com/2010/nt700v.aspx

arkline · 09-12-2009, 08:05 AM

Perhaps someone has a link to the information requested. I've diligently searched using all the keywords that seem reasonable and still can't find much beyond the standard Honda brochure information. GVWR and wattage would seem to be important if you're considering "light touring" on this machine. Since it is a pretty hefty bike given its hp output, I'd really like to know how much weight it would be able to carry along. And wattage is important if you're prone to wear heated gear in the winterish months.
Any help would be appreciated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluesman

Dig European internet via www.google.co.uk etc.
This subtype of Deauville been out since 2008 and plenty sold, e.g. plenty of info.

JamesG · 09-12-2009, 10:00 AM

Since Honda lists heated grips and power outlets as offical accessories, its a pretty safe bet that its got decent power output. Like wise, I can't see you maxing out a GVW unless you use it to cart lead weights or bowling balls regularly...

You could join some of these UK or other Engrish Uropean web boards and ask there.

markjenn · 09-12-2009, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesG

Like wise, I can't see you maxing out a GVW unless you use it to cart lead weights or bowling balls regularly.

I wouldn't bet on that. Honda is notorious for extremely low GVW ratings that result in ridiculously low allowances for riders and cargo. On a new Goldwing, fill it up with fuel and you have about 400-lbs total for passengers and cargo. Most people ignore the ratings - they have to, otherwise, they couldn't go for a ride with their wife, let alone tour with gear.

- Mark

09-11-2009, 01:53 AM	#108
kconville Avant Guard Dog Joined: Apr 2007 Location: State of Denial Oddometer: 405	A couple of observations: The bike looks pretty good to me and I agree that it seems a refreshing alternative to the huge, over-engined alternatives. The one piece, non removable bags are kind of a turn off for several reasons. Where is anyone deriving this hydraulic valves dream from? Sounds like wishful thinking not based in reality. I don't think it's especially pricey considering it's standard equipment, though no bargain either. Ease of maintenance and it's frequency is a big issue for me and will be a deal breaker if it proves to be a PITA. No doubt Honda is one goofy company these days, and in recent years. The so called super conservative Honda when they bust loose give us circus bikes like the Valkyrie Rune and the DN-01 all the while denying us any decent dual sport machines that the rest of the world enjoys. They recently honored us (the US) with allowing us to buy their 150cc scooter for $4600! While the CRF230L sells for the same but has technology hearkening back to the 1970s. Oh boy. But, I digress... I'll try to keep an open mind about this new "tourer" and eagerly await more feedback. __________________ "It's more fun to ride a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow" '03 KLR650, '12 KLX250s, '11 Vespa GTS300

09-11-2009, 10:02 AM	#111
wannaklr Beastly Adventurer Joined: May 2006 Location: Back In Iowa. Quad Cities to be exactish.. Oddometer: 6,809	I thought it came with hydraulic valves and said so on the first page of this thread. My bad, I was hoping it had them and thought I read it somewhere. __________________ Back in Iowa! I like my music like I like my women. Loud, angry and with bagpipes! From Scottie Boy "If you calculated the money spent versus time actually used, vaginas cost more per hour than the space shuttle."

09-11-2009, 01:12 PM	#115
arkline Glorified AV Boy Joined: May 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Oddometer: 177	Specs Does anyone have a link to a site that has something more than the brochure's specifications? I'd be interested in GVW and how many Watts the alternator is capable of producing. Or do I have to wait for an article in MCN or Cycle World?

09-11-2009, 02:29 PM	#117
PaMtbRider Adventurer Joined: Feb 2008 Oddometer: 12	I didn't see this posted yet, but info is on the Honda website http://powersports.honda.com/2010/nt700v.aspx __________________ 2008 CBR1000RR 2004 BMW R1150RS

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09-11-2009, 10:10 AM	#112
Vader Adventurer Joined: Jun 2007 Oddometer: 78	Does anyone know how often does the NT700V need valve inspection? 8k, 16k?

09-11-2009, 12:43 PM	#113
Gradall Army of one gets it done Joined: Sep 2009 Location: Baltimore Oddometer: 72	an observation... Why does it have the tip over skid plates and non removable luggage???? Won't the luggage catch the ground before the skid plate????

09-11-2009, 12:52 PM	#114
bluesman Beastly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Hoegaarden, Belgium Oddometer: 2,998	No, it wont. Do not ask me why, but when my friend went down in Norway (3 times actually) in a) straightforward tip over b)slow speed low side c)missing balance in ultra-slow turn as he is very short guy he broke (pushed in) front indicator, bent gearchange link a bit and hit mirror and that skid plate. And Honda optional bellypan cracked. Beats me, but that's fact - and he has XL sized side pannier covers. But it would not miss handguards and if it would have dropped to other side it might have gotten exhaust damaged.

09-12-2009, 10:00 AM	#119
JamesG Beastly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Columbus, GA Oddometer: 10,127	Since Honda lists heated grips and power outlets as offical accessories, its a pretty safe bet that its got decent power output. Like wise, I can't see you maxing out a GVW unless you use it to cart lead weights or bowling balls regularly... You could join some of these UK or other Engrish Uropean web boards and ask there.