The Africa Twin thread

[Andy G]

Originally Posted by stege

Honda is working (according to Motorrad DE) on a Africa Twin followup, namely Africa Four, equipped with the 1200c V4 from the new VFR1200.


PIC

the annual hoax, as usual... though I hope they'll never make one of these nightmares come true . A fat belly fat ass Varadero with GS1200 wheels can never be the successor of the AT.

Cheers, Andy

[E-Bum]

Personally, I hope they never remake the AT. I think unless it comes with a pair of Lockheed Martin engines, anything will be a disappointment.

[locorider]

There is a Varadero for sale here ... http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=509005

[Andy G]

Originally Posted by E-Bum

Personally, I hope they never remake the AT. I think unless it comes with a pair of Lockheed Martin engines, anything will be a disappointment.

oh, I can imagine some nice future ATs:
[dream]
- <1000ccm
- 80 - 100hp
- <200kg
- >250mm suspension travel
- choice between carbs and injection
- abs and non-abs version
- chain, no shaft
- 18' rear / 21' front wheel
- small dual headlights
- crash resistant plastics with good wind / weather protection for the rider
- >400km fuel range
- comfy seat
- same or better reliabillity as old AT
- absolutely no electronic overkill: mechanical speedo, no H.I.S.S. or similar stuff...
- real bash plate, no plastic
- should take any kind of normal automotive fuel: leaded, unleaded 70 - 100 octane
[/dream]

@ the Honda guys: READ THIS!!!

Cheers, Andi

[Hodgo]

Heres some Pictures from my recent 3000km ride to NSW & Back.

Cairn Monument. Geographical Centre of New South Wales. "Southern State of Australia" Capital is Sydney.


Camping in a bit of a Dust Storm.

The next day.

[A-Wind]

Originally Posted by Andy G

oh, I can imagine some nice future ATs:
- <1000ccm
- 80 - 100hp
- <200kg
- >250mm suspension travel
- choice between carbs and injection
- abs and non-abs version
- chain, no shaft
- 18' rear / 21' front wheel
- small dual headlights
- crash resistant plastics with good wind / weather protection for the rider
- >400km fuel range
- comfy seat
- same or better reliabillity as old AT
- absolutely no electronic overkill: mechanical speedo, no H.I.S.S. or similar stuff...
- real bash plate, no plastic
- should take any kind of normal automotive fuel: leaded, unleaded 70 - 100 octane

This what we are going to get - The Enduro of Tomorrow:
- >1200ccm, 4 Cylinder 20Valve, 2x 32 bit processor controlled engine, Ethanol ready.
- >120 HP
- >300kg
- 150mm suspension travel for increased rider confidence, electronically controlled
- EGR, Secondary Air Induction and the choice between 2 or 1 Catalytic Converter (each with 2x o2 senosors of course) to meet various international market demands.
- ABS with optional Dynamic Stability Control AND First Generation Driver Airbag
- Shaft including patended reverse shaft effect
- 21' rear / 18 front in fashionable 3 spoke cast iron wheel in race-yellow.
- large ugly dual headlights optional Xenon that turns with steering, steering jaw sensor, electric adjusable windshild
- Fairings made of New Polymerized Synthetic (cheap platic) but in latest japanese neon fashion colors, serves as crash protection as it brakes in case of a crash (instead of frame braking)
- <300km range, one tank with 2x professional looking fuel tank caps for easy gas station access (remember Iwan McGregor?). On US models one plastic cap only, other cap is ornamental and serves as cup holder.
- Soft seat has a bad angle so it produces lower back pain. Heated seat option.
- Advanced Anti-Mobilizer System, reliability is guaranteed by included free Autoclub membership
- Built in iPod with 2x58W Speakers, GPS with On-Star

and on top of it all:
- a "Paris-Dakar Ready" sticker/badge signaling ready for action

[Andy G]

Originally Posted by A-Wind

This what we are going to get - The Enduro of Tomorrow:
- >1200ccm, 4 Cylinder 20Valve, 2x 32 bit processor controlled engine, Ethanol ready.
- >120 HP
- >300kg
- 150mm suspension travel for increased rider confidence, electronically controlled
- EGR, Secondary Air Induction and the choice between 2 or 1 Catalytic Converter (each with 2x o2 senosors of course) to meet various international market demands.
- ABS with optional Dynamic Stability Control AND First Generation Driver Airbag
- Shaft including patended reverse shaft effect
- 21' rear / 18 front in fashionable 3 spoke cast iron wheel in race-yellow.
- large ugly dual headlights optional Xenon that turns with steering, steering jaw sensor, electric adjusable windshild
- Fairings made of New Polymerized Synthetic (cheap platic) but in latest japanese neon fashion colors, serves as crash protection as it brakes in case of a crash (instead of frame braking)
- <300km range, one tank with 2x professional looking fuel tank caps for easy gas station access (remember Iwan McGregor?). On US models one plastic cap only, other cap is ornamental and serves as cup holder.
- Soft seat has a bad angle so it produces lower back pain. Heated seat option.
- Advanced Anti-Mobilizer System, reliability is guaranteed by included free Autoclub membership
- Built in iPod with 2x58W Speakers, GPS with On-Star

and on top of it all:
- a "Paris-Dakar Ready" sticker/badge signaling ready for action

Thanks! You really made me lough!
[Jo Momma]
The sad thing is that you'll be right. And in a next step they will forbid riding our old bikes (as they already did with older cars in almost all larger german cities). Then I'll move to Siberia, buy some land and put some self-aiming automatic machine guns around it. You're all welcome to party inside, with real beer, realy fuel, real engines...
[/Jo Momma]
now back to ATs...

Cheers, Andy

[E-Bum]

Originally Posted by A-Wind

This what we are going to get - The Enduro of Tomorrow:
- >1200ccm, 4 Cylinder 20Valve, 2x 32 bit processor controlled engine, Ethanol ready.
- >120 HP
- >300kg
- 150mm suspension travel for increased rider confidence, electronically controlled
- EGR, Secondary Air Induction and the choice between 2 or 1 Catalytic Converter (each with 2x o2 senosors of course) to meet various international market demands.
- ABS with optional Dynamic Stability Control AND First Generation Driver Airbag
- Shaft including patended reverse shaft effect
- 21' rear / 18 front in fashionable 3 spoke cast iron wheel in race-yellow.
- large ugly dual headlights optional Xenon that turns with steering, steering jaw sensor, electric adjusable windshild
- Fairings made of New Polymerized Synthetic (cheap platic) but in latest japanese neon fashion colors, serves as crash protection as it brakes in case of a crash (instead of frame braking)
- <300km range, one tank with 2x professional looking fuel tank caps for easy gas station access (remember Iwan McGregor?). On US models one plastic cap only, other cap is ornamental and serves as cup holder.
- Soft seat has a bad angle so it produces lower back pain. Heated seat option.
- Advanced Anti-Mobilizer System, reliability is guaranteed by included free Autoclub membership
- Built in iPod with 2x58W Speakers, GPS with On-Star

and on top of it all:
- a "Paris-Dakar Ready" sticker/badge signaling ready for action

I think Goldwings already have that covered. All they need are some knobbies.

[A-Wind]

Originally Posted by Andy G

The sad thing is that you'll be right.

Huh, that's what scares mee too...
...but I think as long as it has the "Paris-Dakar Ready" sticker on it, most of it's customers will like it.

Syberian idea Rocks!

[Bambi]

Hello Andy,
please don't shoot at my siberian huskies when I visit you at your siberian home! I agree with you in every point! Exactly your list is, what the manufacturers are going to 'lead' us.
Just take a look at Suzuki. It's now for over 10 years, that we are looking for a new DR-Big. I would have no probs with a V- or parallel-twin-engine, even coming from that with my old Triumph Tiger Trail. But a first look at the 650- or 1000-cc V-Strom made me turn away. Although the 650 is a real good bike, I've tested it. But it's looks and it's off-road-capabilities? Sorry at the V-Strom-guys, but they could have done much better and be worlds ahead! So I'll be rebuilding my old Triumph step by (small) step and keep on riding my 1988 DR 750 Big in the meantime ...
Kind regards, Bambi

[Skorpion]

Hi, i'm new on this forum!
I'm Daniele from Italy, and I would you show my last buy, a beatifoul 1996's Africa Twin!

I hope to do a lot of voyages with this jewel!

[Jim Davis]

Originally Posted by Andy G

oh, I can imagine some nice future ATs:
[dream]
- <1000ccm
- 80 - 100hp
- <200kg
- >250mm suspension travel
- choice between carbs and injection
- abs and non-abs version
- chain, no shaft
- 18' rear / 21' front wheel
- small dual headlights
- crash resistant plastics with good wind / weather protection for the rider
- >400km fuel range
- comfy seat
- same or better reliabillity as old AT
- absolutely no electronic overkill: mechanical speedo, no H.I.S.S. or similar stuff...
- real bash plate, no plastic
- should take any kind of normal automotive fuel: leaded, unleaded 70 - 100 octane
[/dream]

@ the Honda guys: READ THIS!!!

Cheers, Andi

Dunno about all that, but I vote for a 500cc V4 engine.

Basically a BMW F800GS with Honda V4 power.

[Jim Davis]

Originally Posted by Skorpion

Hi, i'm new on this forum!
I'm Daniele from Italy, and I would you show my last buy, a beatifoul 1996's Africa Twin!

I hope to do a lot of voyages with this jewel!

That is a real beauty, love those colours!

[rallybug]

Originally Posted by Skorpion

Hi, i'm new on this forum!
I'm Daniele from Italy, and I would you show my last buy, a beatifoul 1996's Africa Twin!

I hope to do a lot of voyages with this jewel!

Great colours - beautiful condition, too

Makes mine look sooooooooo rusty - probably because it is

[abat]

Originally Posted by Skorpion

Welcome!
Looks real good!enjoy it!