The Africa Twin thread - Page 383

Ze Viking · 03-18-2010, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diskow

I was always wondering if somebody could explain in detail how can this be done? How much work, parts/money you need for this kind of conversion.

I am very interesting in this conversion

Thanks

You use the original wheel which has an exterior circle, linked to the center by spokes.
You will need to buy an 18" circle of the correct width, new spokes and have someone assemble it for you on the original center. I'd say around 500euros worth in the end (with tire and all).

diskow · 03-18-2010, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ze Viking

You will need to buy an 18" circle of the correct width, new spokes and have.

Thanks for the answer.
So you would say that any rim without spokes sized 18'' and for the tyre around 130-150 can fit?
Is there any particular model, I should be concerned that they wont fit?
Should I look for J 18x2.15 ?

What are the measurements of spokes that I will have to buy than?

Since everything together can be fitted on original hub I dont see a reason for 500Eur to pay for that? Correct me if I am wrong.
For example. Could this one fit?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/new-e...Q5fAccessories

Thanks

Jim Rowley · 03-18-2010, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diskow

Thanks for the answer.
So you would say that any rim without spokes sized 18'' and for the tyre around 130-150 can fit?
Is there any particular model, I should be concerned that they wont fit?
Should I look for J 18x2.15 ?

What are the measurements of spokes that I will have to buy than?

Since everything together can be fitted on original hub I dont see a reason for 500Eur to pay for that? Correct me if I am wrong.
For example. Could this one fit?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/new-e...Q5fAccessories

Thanks

Make sure you have a rim with the correct number of spokes to go with the hub. They vary. That one on ebay is a bit narrow. If you want to fit a 130-140 tire, minimum width should be 2.50. There are benefits of sending your wheel to a wheelsmith. You don't have to guess at the length of your spokes. You tell them what you want and they produce it.

Stormforce8 · 03-18-2010, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by locorider

uh

....

You hurting somebody....not me of course!

By no means intentionally – the Katooms are awesome bikes – just a bit too focused for me personally – servicing and issues are just down to experience with friends bikes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladder106

Trying to get to "way #1" I keep finding "way #2" without the KTM or the short service intervals. Scaring myself stupid seems remarkably easy with only 50 HP or so.
The stupid grin always seems to be permanantly attached

Yup – I’m definitely in the same camp as you on this

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirtdigger

Been there done that, and now i´m enjoying my AT

KTM:s engine blew after 9 months and 8000km`s and i bought it new

(You can read about it in my signature line>Trip to Norway)
So, i rather have few more kg:s and few less HP:s and ride it all the way home everyday

Ouch

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy G

Doing wheelies is no problem with the stock AT, just fill your tank only half and get a smaller front sprocket. Engage first gear, let it roll at walking speed, close the throttle and reopen it immedeately again. Be careful!!! If it doesn't work, add a passenger

Cheers, Andy

Easy when you know how...............apparently

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiekIG9OP1Q and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvsHUE5NB9g - obviously - the reason I don't do them is because errrr, uuummm, ah I remember - its harsh on the fork seals

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Funk

No offence buddy – you have a couple of good ‘uns

Quote:

Originally Posted by diskow

I was always wondering if somebody could explain in detail how can this be done? How much work, parts/money you need for this kind of conversion.
I am very interesting in this conversion
Thanks

The issue with converting the rear wheel on the AT to 18” is that it is a 32 spoke hub – and pretty much every 18” rim is a 36 spoke – ergo, you can’t lace a 36 spoke rim to a 32 spoke hub.
I ordered a 3.5" 32 spoke 18” Morad rim from Central Wheels – it was a special order from Morad Spain as they had to drill an 18” blank rim to the correct 32 spoke pattern for the AT hub.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirtdigger

I thought that i broke speedo cable from my AT, but after riding the bike with cable removed from the meter, cable seems to turn normally?
Anyone know if theres some part inside the speedo that might have failed?
I´m a bit afraid to open up the speedo, since i think there might be parts flying around the room when i pull it open?
Anyone got any links on the site where might be some guide on fixing the speedo?

Have a look at this thread over on xrv.org

Africa_Twin · 03-19-2010, 03:59 AM

Andy G · 03-19-2010, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diskow

I was always wondering if somebody could explain in detail how can this be done? How much work, parts/money you need for this kind of conversion.

I am very interesting in this conversion

Thanks

Like Stormforce said, it's hard to find the 32 spokes rim. Either Excel, e.g. sold via Touratech or San Remo, sold via AfricanQueens. Meaybe there are other sources as well. Motobau in Berlin fits a KTM wheel into the AT swingarm.

Cheers, Andy

diskow · 03-19-2010, 08:28 AM

Ok, now I see why this costs much....

So Stormforce with 3.50 you probably fit tyre of 150 on?
Is there a standard (only one way) procedure how to drill those 32 holes into blank 18'' rim or they need to have original hub for measurements?
Since you have ordered 3.50, 18'', 32TC, now they have s shape already and shouldn't be custom order anymore :) ?

Thnks Jim, Storm, Andy

alainmax · 03-19-2010, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladder106

Viking,

Hi Lad,
like your deflector on the screen, mind sharing where it comes from? Is it adjustable? effiscient? did you make it yourself?.. If so , I 'm first on the "order" list

btw, very nice looking AT

Africa_Twin · 03-19-2010, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alainmax

Hi Lad,
like your deflector on the screen, mind sharing where it comes from? Is it adjustable? effiscient? did you make it yourself?.. If so , I 'm first on the "order" list

btw, very nice looking AT

Here, here: http://www.mrashop.de/mrashop/cmsAct...39139165168F45

Click for bigger pic

Best thing I ever fitter to my AT, after the Facet

alainmax · 03-19-2010, 10:32 AM

thanks Lisbon,
I'mfamiliar with MRa screen. thought it was different spoiler. i have a MRA and would like to add a spoiler ( without poking holes in my screen but may not be possible), so looking for options

locorider · 03-19-2010, 01:36 PM

I have the MRA for the RD03, but would love to have or build a spoiler for less turbulence!!!

Super Sherpa · 03-19-2010, 03:39 PM

Hey gentlemen, say the African Twin for the first time today, and instantly fell in love.

I live in Montana, USA, and haven't been able to find these bikes any more. Do they even make these rigs any more? I will assume that they don't import them into the USA. Is it possible to get one to the USA if they still make them. They are a very hansom bike.

alainmax · 03-19-2010, 03:53 PM

welcome SSherpa,

no they never imported the AT to the USA, popular in Europe, some in japan and Australia.
Limited supply in the USA as imported bike but you may find them on the market from time to time. Importing the bike into the US is easy, getting it registered is a PITA++++. Some people import them in parts and reassemble them here and obtain a salvaged(?) title and then register, still a gambling!!
We estimate them at around 20 ish in the USA, no exact count that I know of. A chunk of them will be reunited at the upcoming TAAT summit this July in Oregon.
THe bike is no longer produced since 2007 ( I think but not sure)
Awsome bike, enjoy the thread, most of the folks here are very knowledgable, some of us are attentive students

G-Funk · 03-19-2010, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alainmax

The bike is no longer produced since 2007 ( I think but not sure)
Awsome bike, enjoy the thread, most of the folks here are very knowledgable, some of us are attentive students

Actually ...... the last actual production was in 2000, and the last of the stock sold up until 2003 ....

Then, done.

G.

Ladder106 · 03-19-2010, 07:06 PM

Hi Super S

....and welcome.

The two bike picutred above your post, post #5739 and 5742 are both Honda Transalps converted over to Africe Twin specs.

For a US rider, that's probably the easiest way to get the AT "look" and still be able to get spares and actually buy a bike.

The conversion will cost you about $1500 or so depending on what you want to do. The average cost for a decent Transalp these days is about $3500. Look for one lowish <35000 miles.

If you decide to undertake this there is plenty of help here.

03-19-2010, 03:59 AM	#5735
Africa_Twin Africa Twiner Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Oddometer: 329	Speaking of wheelies on an AT... __________________ Riding to the sunset... on my Africa Twin... http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l1...ar/sigATCP.gif

03-19-2010, 10:32 AM	#5740
alainmax ca vaut le detour !! Joined: Aug 2008 Location: Portland, Weird Oddometer: 573	thanks Lisbon, I'mfamiliar with MRa screen. thought it was different spoiler. i have a MRA and would like to add a spoiler ( without poking holes in my screen but may not be possible), so looking for options __________________ 04 GS 1150 93 Africa twin RD07

03-19-2010, 01:36 PM	#5741
locorider Loco, pero no estúpido! Joined: Aug 2006 Location: Puerto Rico, U.S.A. Oddometer: 2,266	I have the MRA for the RD03, but would love to have or build a spoiler for less turbulence!!! __________________ Carlos locorider 1989 Honda XL600V Transalp, slightly modified! *1974 Catalina 22....sailing, mi otra pasión!* "If you don't follow your dreams, you might as well be a vegetable", Burt Munro, The World's Fastest Indian "Avoiding danger is no safer than outright exposure. Life is a daring adventure, or nothing" - Helen Keller Longaniza Ride Ruta del Café

03-19-2010, 03:53 PM	#5743
alainmax ca vaut le detour !! Joined: Aug 2008 Location: Portland, Weird Oddometer: 573	welcome SSherpa, no they never imported the AT to the USA, popular in Europe, some in japan and Australia. Limited supply in the USA as imported bike but you may find them on the market from time to time. Importing the bike into the US is easy, getting it registered is a PITA++++. Some people import them in parts and reassemble them here and obtain a salvaged(?) title and then register, still a gambling!! We estimate them at around 20 ish in the USA, no exact count that I know of. A chunk of them will be reunited at the upcoming TAAT summit this July in Oregon. THe bike is no longer produced since 2007 ( I think but not sure) Awsome bike, enjoy the thread, most of the folks here are very knowledgable, some of us are attentive students __________________ 04 GS 1150 93 Africa twin RD07

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03-19-2010, 08:28 AM	#5737
diskow Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2008 Location: Ljubljana Oddometer: 177	Ok, now I see why this costs much.... So Stormforce with 3.50 you probably fit tyre of 150 on? Is there a standard (only one way) procedure how to drill those 32 holes into blank 18'' rim or they need to have original hub for measurements? Since you have ordered 3.50, 18'', 32TC, now they have s shape already and shouldn't be custom order anymore :) ? Thnks Jim, Storm, Andy

03-19-2010, 03:39 PM	#5742
Super Sherpa 'n00b, yup I'm keeping it Joined: Feb 2010 Location: Bitterroot Valley, Montana Oddometer: 290	Hey gentlemen, say the African Twin for the first time today, and instantly fell in love. I live in Montana, USA, and haven't been able to find these bikes any more. Do they even make these rigs any more? I will assume that they don't import them into the USA. Is it possible to get one to the USA if they still make them. They are a very hansom bike.

03-19-2010, 07:06 PM	#5745
Ladder106 It's a short cut, really Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Davis, CA Oddometer: 4,268	Hi Super S ....and welcome. The two bike picutred above your post, post #5739 and 5742 are both Honda Transalps converted over to Africe Twin specs. For a US rider, that's probably the easiest way to get the AT "look" and still be able to get spares and actually buy a bike. The conversion will cost you about $1500 or so depending on what you want to do. The average cost for a decent Transalp these days is about $3500. Look for one lowish <35000 miles. If you decide to undertake this there is plenty of help here.