The Africa Twin thread - Page 699

diskow · 11-29-2011, 02:23 AM

Heno -

Your rebuild looks awesome. Congratulations.
Some questions goingh through my mind:

- Have you used longer Wilbers (extended strut) or just shorter U bone at the back for more ground clearance?
- I think You ll need Much longer brake cables at the front
- I see you use aftermarket brake disc. No offense but I very doubt they will work as much good as original. Let us know how they work....
- SW motech footpegs look very interesting and nicely strong build (without rubber for my use). Are they lower as original?
- Your extensions for Magura are very high. Try maybe rather not so much long extensions but put them leaned more forward to straighten the angle. Than magura can be straight up with the line of forks.

Let us know

Heno · 11-29-2011, 02:30 AM

Ze_zaskar...Thank you

Here, see the specs.

Front suspension:

HYPERPRO Progressive springs
44mm lifting kit

Rear suspension:

Custom build, fully tuned WILBERS 641 shock
Built accordance to these specs:
- Honda XRV 750 Africa Twin (RD 07A)
- Built 1996
- Bike weight 250kg
- Driver weight 120kg
- Occasional passenger weight 70kg
- Occasional baggage weight 50kg
- On-Road riding 50% of whole riding time
- Off-Road riding 50% of whole riding time
- 10mm longer shock
- Hydraulic Pre-Load

Heno · 11-29-2011, 02:42 AM

diskow

Wilbers offers up to 20mm shock length change. How they do it? Dont know. U-bone is original.
Brake lines gonna be Hel stainless brake lines. Length will be set to actual conditions.
Will see ;)
Foot pegs are standard height with 15mm possibility of vertical setting, I think.
Gonna try this setting, than will see. Thanks ;)

I definitely will.

Ze_zaskar · 11-29-2011, 03:43 AM

Amazing how you got so much ground clearance with so little suspension height increase. Ever thought about going the Boano Sachs fork kit route?
And whats the plan for the fairing?

diskow · 11-29-2011, 03:59 AM

I have 15mm longer Ohlins than original on my AT.
It gave me around 4cm more at the back.

Heno · 11-29-2011, 05:14 AM

Ze_zaskar...Boano Sachs fork kit is too expensive. For riding type, I am used to, original fork with prog. springs is faaaar enough

Boano fairing? Most ugliest fairing ever. (sorry for those who have it) I am just going to change the angle of original fairing for rallye purposes.

Joz · 11-29-2011, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heno

That's so pretty how will you bring your self to get it dirty??

Heno · 11-29-2011, 05:34 AM

Its never gonna get dirty

I´ll take care of this.

Africa_Twin · 11-29-2011, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heno

Boano fairing? Most ugliest fairing ever. (sorry for those who have it)

I agree!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heno

I am just going to change the angle of original fairing for rallye purposes.

I am interested in learning more about this.

Ze_zaskar · 11-29-2011, 06:49 AM

About the fairing, to each it's own, I guess. I happen to be a fan of the Boano's one, but the stock is sexy as well.
Forgot to ask about the tank, will you keep it stock or go for a big one?

By the way, saw your former Transalp 700 on SmugMug, really cool. I don't understand how that bike isn't more popular, it can get really nice with some upgrades

Heno · 11-29-2011, 07:07 AM

I mean something similar to this, but not so straight.
Will keep original tank.

@dreamer · 11-29-2011, 09:13 AM

Could some one please explain to me this front suspension mod that Heno has done. From what I can tell it's an extension that goes on top of the fork tube but I'm not sure. How does it attach, do you have to use a progressive spring, strength, also where did you source them from?

I am looking to replace the wheels on my RD04, I will just get them relaced on the original hubs but I was thinking of going with an 18" rear and from what I gather you cant just put an 18" rear wheel on due to the changes in the geometry so I was thinking that this "lift kit" might be a simpler way of compensating for the change in the geometry due to the fact that the rear will be taller. What width wheel should I be looking at for the best options for tires, I will be putting a dual sport tire back on, not a knobbie or road tire, the roads here in Thailand are bad and once I move there will be alot of dirt/gravel roads.

Thanks for the help in advance.
Keith

@dreamer · 11-29-2011, 09:20 AM

Sorry, one more thing I need to do some kind of tank sealer on my fuel tank due to rust. I found one on the internet that is called Gold Standard Tank Sealer, looks like a good product but I was wondering if the tank gets dented will this stuff crack off inside the tank or will it flex. Anyone have any suggestion for a tank sealer if this isn't what I should use?

Thanks
Keith

Twiniver · 11-29-2011, 09:34 AM

Hey Heno....

Nice projekt, i am following you on your smugmug album, it looks really nice!!!! I totally agre on the Boano fairing, so i will be looking foreward to seeing the result of your rebuild of the original, keep up the good work

.

Twiniver.

dennism · 11-29-2011, 12:02 PM

Anyone have any suggestion for a tank sealer if this isn't what I should use?

Thanks
Keith[/QUOTE]

http://www.caswellplating.com/aids/epoxygas.htm

This one comes highly recommended, even for fiberglass tanks. I haven't needed it .....yet. DennisM.

11-29-2011, 02:30 AM	#10472
Heno Lover Of Perfection Joined: Aug 2011 Location: Slovakia Oddometer: 60	Ze_zaskar...Thank you Here, see the specs. Front suspension: HYPERPRO Progressive springs 44mm lifting kit Rear suspension: Custom build, fully tuned WILBERS 641 shock Built accordance to these specs: Honda XRV 750 Africa Twin (RD 07A) Built 1996 Bike weight 250kg Driver weight 120kg Occasional passenger weight 70kg Occasional baggage weight 50kg On-Road riding 50% of whole riding time Off-Road riding 50% of whole riding time 10mm longer shock Hydraulic Pre-Load

11-29-2011, 02:42 AM	#10473
Heno Lover Of Perfection Joined: Aug 2011 Location: Slovakia Oddometer: 60	diskow Wilbers offers up to 20mm shock length change. How they do it? Dont know. U-bone is original. Brake lines gonna be Hel stainless brake lines. Length will be set to actual conditions. Will see ;) Foot pegs are standard height with 15mm possibility of vertical setting, I think. Gonna try this setting, than will see. Thanks ;) I definitely will.

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11-29-2011, 02:23 AM	#10471
diskow Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2008 Location: Ljubljana Oddometer: 177	Heno - Your rebuild looks awesome. Congratulations. Some questions goingh through my mind: - Have you used longer Wilbers (extended strut) or just shorter U bone at the back for more ground clearance? - I think You ll need Much longer brake cables at the front - I see you use aftermarket brake disc. No offense but I very doubt they will work as much good as original. Let us know how they work.... - SW motech footpegs look very interesting and nicely strong build (without rubber for my use). Are they lower as original? - Your extensions for Magura are very high. Try maybe rather not so much long extensions but put them leaned more forward to straighten the angle. Than magura can be straight up with the line of forks. Let us know

11-29-2011, 03:43 AM	#10474
Ze_zaskar Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2009 Location: 41°17'51.59"N / 8°43'56.76"W Oddometer: 304	Amazing how you got so much ground clearance with so little suspension height increase. Ever thought about going the Boano Sachs fork kit route? And whats the plan for the fairing?

11-29-2011, 03:59 AM	#10475
diskow Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2008 Location: Ljubljana Oddometer: 177	I have 15mm longer Ohlins than original on my AT. It gave me around 4cm more at the back.

11-29-2011, 05:14 AM	#10476
Heno Lover Of Perfection Joined: Aug 2011 Location: Slovakia Oddometer: 60	Ze_zaskar...Boano Sachs fork kit is too expensive. For riding type, I am used to, original fork with prog. springs is faaaar enough Boano fairing? Most ugliest fairing ever. (sorry for those who have it) I am just going to change the angle of original fairing for rallye purposes.

11-29-2011, 05:34 AM	#10478
Heno Lover Of Perfection Joined: Aug 2011 Location: Slovakia Oddometer: 60	Its never gonna get dirty I´ll take care of this.

11-29-2011, 06:49 AM	#10480
Ze_zaskar Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2009 Location: 41°17'51.59"N / 8°43'56.76"W Oddometer: 304	About the fairing, to each it's own, I guess. I happen to be a fan of the Boano's one, but the stock is sexy as well. Forgot to ask about the tank, will you keep it stock or go for a big one? By the way, saw your former Transalp 700 on SmugMug, really cool. I don't understand how that bike isn't more popular, it can get really nice with some upgrades

11-29-2011, 07:07 AM	#10481
Heno Lover Of Perfection Joined: Aug 2011 Location: Slovakia Oddometer: 60	I mean something similar to this, but not so straight. Will keep original tank.

11-29-2011, 09:13 AM	#10482
@dreamer Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2011 Location: Pattaya, Thailand Oddometer: 112	Could some one please explain to me this front suspension mod that Heno has done. From what I can tell it's an extension that goes on top of the fork tube but I'm not sure. How does it attach, do you have to use a progressive spring, strength, also where did you source them from? I am looking to replace the wheels on my RD04, I will just get them relaced on the original hubs but I was thinking of going with an 18" rear and from what I gather you cant just put an 18" rear wheel on due to the changes in the geometry so I was thinking that this "lift kit" might be a simpler way of compensating for the change in the geometry due to the fact that the rear will be taller. What width wheel should I be looking at for the best options for tires, I will be putting a dual sport tire back on, not a knobbie or road tire, the roads here in Thailand are bad and once I move there will be alot of dirt/gravel roads. Thanks for the help in advance. Keith

11-29-2011, 09:20 AM	#10483
@dreamer Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2011 Location: Pattaya, Thailand Oddometer: 112	Sorry, one more thing I need to do some kind of tank sealer on my fuel tank due to rust. I found one on the internet that is called Gold Standard Tank Sealer, looks like a good product but I was wondering if the tank gets dented will this stuff crack off inside the tank or will it flex. Anyone have any suggestion for a tank sealer if this isn't what I should use? Thanks Keith

11-29-2011, 09:34 AM	#10484
Twiniver Adventurer Joined: Sep 2008 Oddometer: 62	Hey Heno.... Nice projekt, i am following you on your smugmug album, it looks really nice!!!! I totally agre on the Boano fairing, so i will be looking foreward to seeing the result of your rebuild of the original, keep up the good work . Twiniver.

11-29-2011, 12:02 PM	#10485
dennism dennism Joined: Oct 2007 Location: Kansas, USA Oddometer: 91	Anyone have any suggestion for a tank sealer if this isn't what I should use? Thanks Keith[/QUOTE] http://www.caswellplating.com/aids/epoxygas.htm This one comes highly recommended, even for fiberglass tanks. I haven't needed it .....yet. DennisM.