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Old 03-19-2012, 09:05 AM   #10996
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Nice report. I think I would have turned back after the fork protectors popped off. You had the old girl labouring pretty good trough that sticky mud and going uphill at the same time. It's highly probable your clutch is glazed from the heat and is burnt.
Get a whole kit here. 90-03 Honda XRV750 Africa Twin 750 EBC clutch friction ...
Ask for the heavy duty springs (separate) if you order from those guys. Made by EBC so p/n CSK6 (5 total) for the springs and Friction plate p/n CK1167 (7 total) if you want to buy local. Honda friction discs are a bit more exspensive FYI. Also you will need a new clutch nut (90 ft lbs tq) and side cover gasket. Also I would change the oil shortly after you install the new kit in order to give it a good flush.
I am wondering if it might be more the transmission...I hope not... I have the chain free now and can push the bike but even when put in gear there is no resistance and I can push it freely. I would have thought if it was the clutch the bike would still engage as if in gear. Is it possible the clutch is preventing this and is acting as if it is always pulled in?
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Old 03-19-2012, 10:49 AM   #10997
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GSPD: 50189-MY1-000 Guide, Cluth Cable

http://www.hondaoriginalparts.com/ho...&block_03=7340

Please note that you might need to adapt the mounting... for your model, this guide is only available with the ignition switch set...

Thanks for that! I also checked Lings for the part # however the OEM # would not come up for my model.
I'll call my honda dealer and see if it's a good number for them. cheers!
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:09 AM   #10998
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I am wondering if it might be more the transmission...I hope not... I have the chain free now and can push the bike but even when put in gear there is no resistance and I can push it freely. I would have thought if it was the clutch the bike would still engage as if in gear. Is it possible the clutch is preventing this and is acting as if it is always pulled in?
I would bet your transmission is just fine....at least you hope so as you don't want to split the cases. For it not to go into gear their must be something amiss with the shifter mechanism to prevent it (my guess)....possibly a bent shifter shaft from kicking it into gear in the mud.

Item #10 is your shifter shaft which goes thru the engine. The hook on the end shifts the cogs #6 on the shifter drum. Something can't be right there...as it should shift for you into gear regardless of the state of the clutch. To get at the hook and the cog you have to remove the clutch and oil pump (easy peasy) and the shaft can be replaced without splitting the cases if it is damaged.

How does your oil look on the dipstick? Burnt? Clutch particles in the oil?



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Old 03-19-2012, 05:09 PM   #10999
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Nice report. I think I would have turned back after the fork protectors popped off. You had the old girl labouring pretty good trough that sticky mud and going uphill at the same time. It's highly probable your clutch is glazed from the heat and is burnt.
Get a whole kit here. 90-03 Honda XRV750 Africa Twin 750 EBC clutch friction ...
Ask for the heavy duty springs (separate) if you order from those guys. Made by EBC so p/n CSK6 (5 total) for the springs and Friction plate p/n CK1167 (7 total) if you want to buy local. Honda friction discs are a bit more exspensive FYI. Also you will need a new clutch nut (90 ft lbs tq) and side cover gasket. Also I would change the oil shortly after you install the new kit in order to give it a good flush.
Where would you source the nut and gasket from?
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Old 03-19-2012, 05:19 PM   #11000
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Where would you source the nut and gasket from?
Your local Honda dealer should be able to get it for you as this engine shares many parts with the Honda Shadow....same crank etc...

r/h side cover gasket 11394-MV1-850
clutch nut 90231-MM5-000

The clutch nut could be used over again, however it is staked and is recommended you only use it once.

Or you can order from http://www.servicehonda.com/order-pa...-a-part-number

Punch in your #'s and checkout. I think they are out of Indiana...but your local Honda Dealer should be able to get them.
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:08 PM   #11001
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Thanks for the help.

Got the springs and plates ordered. Will contact a dealer tomorrwo for the other parts. Cheers
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Old 03-20-2012, 07:02 PM   #11002
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Sprocket pic

Guys does anyone have a nice clear pic of the couter sproket and all the pieces that would go to mouting it up? When I pulled mine off other than the sprocket the washers and keeper look pretty thrashed. Cheers
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Old 03-21-2012, 02:47 AM   #11003
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ok going open a real can of worms here

the older @ had single disks, great nto problem, were they the same diameter as the twin disk models?

curious as whats stopping someone just using 1 disk off the twin disk. i know its small disk but i have seen plenty bikes with similar disk sizes on similar weight bikes.

that or can i get a much much larger disk to fit the @ hub
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Old 03-21-2012, 05:32 AM   #11004
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Guys does anyone have a nice clear pic of the couter sproket and all the pieces that would go to mouting it up? When I pulled mine off other than the sprocket the washers and keeper look pretty thrashed. Cheers
Hello Reidy...Do you have the Haynes Manual? Their are some good pics on page 6-26 or you can look at the following items #20 and #21. Their are no washers...only the plate and 2 bolts. Your right, the fixing plate can get a bit thrashed so I would just order a new one...and the 2 bolts while your at it. Your dealer should have those...plate p/n 23811-MV1-000 and bolts p/n 90118-958-003. Clean the threads on the sprocket and apply some Loctite on those bolts prior to install.

You sorta need that sprocket on their to hold the crank (in gear and standing on the brake) whilst you remove the clutch nut...but you can't get it into gear can you? If you have'nt got the clutch nut off already then try fiddling hard with the shifter up and down until you find a gear.

Clutch nut is a 30 mm socket...1/2" drive works best with 1/2" drive breaker bar...or better yet an air or electric impact gun and that sucker will whiz right off...of course while you try to hold the crank still. Better yet...rather than standing on the brake in gear is if you have an old front sprocket with some cheater bars attached/welded to it somehow and thereby holding the crank.

Yeah...your clutch was probably close to being worn to limits anyhow ...this is all just routine maintenance on these beasts. Got all that mud off yet?

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Old 03-21-2012, 07:19 AM   #11005
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The RD03s had a single disc that is the same size as the Transalp single.

It's larger than the dual disc on those models. Dunno the measurement off the top. However, the 320 mm disc from the Honda NT650 will bolt right to the wheel (6 bolt pattern). Then you have to make an adapter to space out the caliper. This is a common TA mod and improves front braking dramatically.
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:01 AM   #11006
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As far as I remember, RD03 have bigger rotor than single TA one.
6 bolt pattern on hub is same.

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The RD03s had a single disc that is the same size as the Transalp single.
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:00 AM   #11007
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The RD03s had a single disc that is the same size as the Transalp single.

It's larger than the dual disc on those models. Dunno the measurement off the top. However, the 320 mm disc from the Honda NT650 will bolt right to the wheel (6 bolt pattern). Then you have to make an adapter to space out the caliper. This is a common TA mod and improves front braking dramatically.
ah now i like the sound of this

1 thing, will a 6 hole nt650 disk fit a 4 hole hub
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Old 03-21-2012, 02:36 PM   #11008
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will a 6 hole nt650 disk fit a 4 hole hub
Do you really need an answer to this question?
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:53 PM   #11009
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Bits and pieces

Here is the pieces that I have after I removed the counter sprocket.. the thin washers are the only parts I am not familiar with. You guys seen these before?
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:38 PM   #11010
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Here is the pieces that I have after I removed the counter sprocket.. the thin washers are the only parts I am not familiar with. You guys seen these before?
Someone fabricated those to act as shims...probably to take out any axial play. Not req'd...or Honda would have supplied them. Their is a certain amount of play on the sprocket to begin with which is normal. A new plate will help keeping it all secure.
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