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Old 01-10-2013, 08:59 AM   #11986
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Im thinking that it could be the sparkplugs, but what are the chances that all four gave up at the same time?
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:12 AM   #11987
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Im thinking that it could be the sparkplugs, but what are the chances that all four gave up at the same time?
The chances are they being wrong plugs for the bike type, the two ignitions coils going dead at the same time or the CDI being faulty...

But why do you think the spark plugs are the culprits? What makes you think that?

You said you think the REG/REC is fine... Why you think that? Did you measure your charging voltage at 5.000 rpm with a hot engine and the low beams turned on? Did you measure something between 14-15 V at the battery posts?
By any chance, did you install a new REG/REC recently? If yes, why did you install it? Could it be that the previous REG/REC might have given a "hot spark of high charging voltage" to your bike's electrical system that could have affected your CDI? Did you have any troubles with your battery?
Battery liquid boiling, the battery spitting acid out, or its walls swelling, a strong smell of battery acid... did you notice any of this?

Did the bike simply not start anymore, all of a sudden or did you notice some of the above symptoms?
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:20 AM   #11988
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What happened at first was that the bike would start normally, I would ride it a bit, switch off and when try to start, it would not start again for 15-20 minutes. Then, it would start normally. No backfire or any strange throttle response.
So, I changed the fuel pump for the facet one, went for a ride and the same symptoms happened. Then after another small ride, the bike refused to start completely.
The starter cranks the bike properly and I also used another battery to test.
The regulator was replaced a few years ago with a proven non OEM one, but I have a spare so, will change it over and see how it goes. I havent measured the charging voltage when the bike was running.
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:49 AM   #11989
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What happened at first was that the bike would start normally, I would ride it a bit, switch off and when try to start, it would not start again for 15-20 minutes. Then, it would start normally. No backfire or any strange throttle response.
So, I changed the fuel pump for the facet one, went for a ride and the same symptoms happened. Then after another small ride, the bike refused to start completely.
The starter cranks the bike properly and I also used another battery to test.
The regulator was replaced a few years ago with a proven non OEM one, but I have a spare so, will change it over and see how it goes. I havent measured the charging voltage when the bike was running.

OK.
I was only trying to ascertain whether your REG/REG might have recently "killed" your CDI... that seems not to be the case.
Ruling out any electrical issues, you are left with the fuel system.
Do you feel a strong smell of gasoline when cranking the bike? Or is there no fuel smell? To rule the facet out of the question simply plug the fuel filter outlet (the part that connects to the Facet inlet tube) directly to the tube that goes to the carbs (facet outlet) with the tank full. While the fuel level inside the tank is above the carbs level, you can run the bike with no fuel pump, because the fuel will reach the carbs by the gravity force alone.
Also, when the Facet is run dry, you can clearly and loudly hear it working... If you hear it chattering under these conditions (disconnected from the fuel line but still connected to the electrical system, when cranking the engine with the starter motor), then the fuel pump relay and the CDI part that governs this relay are also OK.
By the way, when was the last time you replaced your fuel filter? I've seen bikes having starting/running problems due to very clogged fuel filters... You might as well rule that out by replacing the fuel filter...
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:04 AM   #11990
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Great thread!!

Some years ago I found this bike near a beach in Spain, parked in the sidewalk, and I took some pictures of it, as I had only seen it in pictures and magazines



















I hope that you enjoy the pics as well

By the way: I wish that Honda build this motorcycle again... What a great bike!!!!
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:12 AM   #11991
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Must have sparks !!

Step 1.....

Remove one spark plug, ground to engine push starter button.

You are randomly messing around with stuff with no logical sequence.

Make certain you have spark first.

...............................

My guess, based on the information provided so far is that the trigger coils for the ignition system located down by the stator on the left are bad.

Some Hondas, particularly the Goldwings, have had problems starting when hot. This persists until the bike won't start at all. It's related to the igntion sensors. For some reason they begin to fail when hot first...then fail completely.

This may not be the problem...it's only an educated guess.


But, please, just pull a plug and make certain you have spark. Otherwise, you are just chasing your tail.
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Old 01-10-2013, 03:25 PM   #11992
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What happened at first was that the bike would start normally, I would ride it a bit, switch off and when try to start, it would not start again for 15-20 minutes. Then, it would start normally. No backfire or any strange throttle response.
So, I changed the fuel pump for the facet one, went for a ride and the same symptoms happened. Then after another small ride, the bike refused to start completely.
The starter cranks the bike properly and I also used another battery to test.
The regulator was replaced a few years ago with a proven non OEM one, but I have a spare so, will change it over and see how it goes. I havent measured the charging voltage when the bike was running.
One way you might want to check it is to....Pull a spark plug wire off and install another spark plug on the disconected plug wire. Hold the spark plug against a good ground/earth, turn on the ingition key and push the starter button. Watch for spark. If you have spark, loosen one of the carburator drain screws and see if there is any fuel in the carbs.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:33 AM   #11993
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Bump... one more buyer needed now

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OK you lot ...Kitped needs another 2 buyers before he can place the order for these 50mm fork extensions.

PM him pronto if you're a definite buyer - Kitped
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:51 AM   #11994
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Great thread!!

Some years ago I found this bike near a beach in Spain, parked in the sidewalk, and I took some pictures of it, as I had only seen it in pictures and magazines



















I hope that you enjoy the pics as well

By the way: I wish that Honda build this motorcycle again... What a great bike!!!!
this is total porn!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think, this is one of the very rare paris-dakar bikes for private-riders...........
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:15 AM   #11995
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You know if they fit RD07?
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Old 01-11-2013, 11:40 AM   #11996
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Great thread!!

Some years ago I found this bike near a beach in Spain, parked in the sidewalk, and I took some pictures of it, as I had only seen it in pictures and magazines



















I hope that you enjoy the pics as well

By the way: I wish that Honda build this motorcycle again... What a great bike!!!!
Great motivation for my RD03 restoration/Marathon Replica.....these classic Marathons are so cool....
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:39 PM   #11997
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You know if they fit RD07?
Yes, all Africa Twin fork caps a the same.
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Old 01-11-2013, 04:11 PM   #11998
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farcall

You know if they fit RD07?
What Kitped said.

C'mon man, risk-it for a biscuit, place your order with Kitped. ...

Why am I so keen for these?? I'm gunna lose 20mm clearance under my front fairing when I fit my LED's soon and I have future plans for an 18" rear wheel conversion. These fork extensions will kill two birds with one stone. Errr... figuratively speaking that is... no dead birds here
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farcall screwed with this post 01-11-2013 at 04:20 PM Reason: Kitped nailed it. Babble removed.
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:46 AM   #11999
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Trip master problems

Hello everybody recently i am haviving a problem with my trip master. it doesn't hold any readings. No km, no time. It's like when you take of the battery. Since i dont't have any idea about mechanics (up until now i had my mechanic solving all my problems but he has retired now) i wonder if any of you out there had the same trouble and found out what it was. any ideasare welcome.Thank in advance.
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Old 01-12-2013, 08:37 AM   #12000
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Hello everybody recently i am haviving a problem with my trip master. it doesn't hold any readings. No km, no time. It's like when you take of the battery. Since i dont't have any idea about mechanics (up until now i had my mechanic solving all my problems but he has retired now) i wonder if any of you out there had the same trouble and found out what it was. any ideasare welcome.Thank in advance.
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