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Old 01-28-2014, 11:58 AM   #13156
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So do you guys lubricate the splines or are you keeping them clean?
Yes i need a new chain i know..
Never lubricate! Dry.
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Old 01-28-2014, 12:43 PM   #13157
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So do you guys lubricate the splines or are you keeping them clean?
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You might take a look at CRC Dry Moly lube, their product No 03084.

It comes in a rattle can, shake well, then spray on just like paint- not too heavy. It dries quickly, just like paint. Nothing for dirt to stick to.

I use it on the rear axle splines of my Honda ST1100, and am well pleased with it. I change the lube and O-rings each time I put on a new tire, and the Dry Moly is still there. So I clean it off with brake cleaner, and coat the splines again.

I'll try it on my @ splines too, as the one 11oz can I bought looks like it will outlast me!

YMMV, of course.
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Old 01-28-2014, 03:43 PM   #13158
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Never lubricate! Dry.
This links up to the question: "do you or don't you lubricate the chain?"

Highly debatable with pro's and con's in every direction, but it comes down to what you're doing with it (i.e. highway riding or crossing dunes).

I've got a scotoiler on mine, so the splines stay lubricated from excess oil of the chain anyway.
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Old 01-28-2014, 04:48 PM   #13159
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Splines from shaft with a alignment of sprocket splines -------> --------> what action, friction, faze, state of the art is there to lubricate ? ?


splines will be always good if your bearing holds ======> just keep your chain Slack (loosen)
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Old 01-28-2014, 05:11 PM   #13160
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I like to use a bit of Honda Moly Paste 60 on the splines.

Likely it's not required but it keeps the rust away and I like to think it does a little something to cushion the on/off throttle clearance in the fit of the spines between the output shaft and the CS sprocket.

Likely it's just peace of mind but is a fairly strict requirement for my ST1100 on the rear wheel splines for the rear drive. I'm thinking that the loads there are about equal to the output shaft loads on the AT.
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Old 01-28-2014, 09:54 PM   #13161
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what action, friction, faze, state of the art is there to lubricate ? ?
I've seen plenty of worn shafts that have nothing to do with bearings. One theory: hardened aftermarket (non OEM) sprockets are harder than the shaft and make the shaft wear, thus loosening it up.

I try to use only OEM cush-sprockets on mine (and it's lubricated as said before), and after almost 300k, have almost no play. But maybe I'm just lucky...

Regardless of what causes it, I agree with Ladder106: peace of mind.
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Old 01-29-2014, 02:11 AM   #13162
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I was expecting "thinking out of the box" possibility of Rust argument also because it was always mentioned at the end of numerous Shaft lubricating debates when there were no proper arguments left.
I would say: Better to tighten splines with "micro" surface Rust even more.

There was no debate of how many reasons of worn Output shaft there is. Wrong sprocket material could be one of them.

I have 84.000 of dust, mud and water appealing offroad, unmerciful kilometers done with extended Rear shock (extended travel - lots of chain amplitudes. My Shaft is like new. Bearing never changed.

Could: SHAFT always DRY & CLEAN, CHAIN SLACKEN, LOOSE be the reason?

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Old 01-29-2014, 08:38 AM   #13163
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Nice, all those replies! Well i always lubricated the splines with chain Grease with the following motivation: if i fill the gaps with Grease no dirt will go in. But after your replies i think i will go for the dry lube, i have molycote dry-lube to try! Thnx Guys.
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Old 01-31-2014, 11:58 PM   #13164
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Old 02-01-2014, 08:00 AM   #13165
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Are you joking?

Doesn't quite look like Laia...but difficult to tell in the helmet.

Beautiful pair, though (referring to the RD03s)
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Old 02-01-2014, 08:15 AM   #13166
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Are you joking?

Doesn't quite look like Laia...but difficult to tell in the helmet.

Beautiful pair, though (referring to the RD03s)
it's on her personal fb page, from a tour of Corse Island in 2011
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Old 02-01-2014, 08:37 AM   #13167
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WOW !

She had a great ride in the Dakar this year and I enjoyed following her through the days and stages.

......but to think that she rides an old AT....well.....
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Old 02-01-2014, 02:39 PM   #13168
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Hey guys, a few pics from my recent trip to Dakar!

Morroco, Mauritania, Senegal, Guiné-Bissau and Gambia! 5960 kms down, and the rest back home to Porto in Portugal.




Riding on Dakar beach, CHECK!










Hi Twinie

many many compliments for you adventure and your skills.

I had arrived to Dakar a few days before the Desert Challenge, but on a really much more "easy" journey. I just wanted to bring my Marathon back to Dakar!

(at the Dakar '90 driver Serge Leguevaque had a bad fall at only 3 stages from the end and had to leave)


we had some fun here and there anyway







had to bypass the fuel pump (still the original!) that suddenly ceased to work


and then on again







and finally at the Lac Rose


Unfortunately we didn't make it to that beach, we were late .. the other guys were not too motivated and in the end I was left alone, tried the same but I'm not so good in soft sand and 35 lt of fuel on the front tank didn't help, so I sadly had to give up

But the jorney was great anyway and bringing there an old Marathon ... no price !
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Old 02-01-2014, 06:14 PM   #13169
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Old 02-02-2014, 01:57 PM   #13170
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Hi Twinie

many many compliments for you adventure and your skills.

I had arrived to Dakar a few days before the Desert Challenge, but on a really much more "easy" journey. I just wanted to bring my Marathon back to Dakar!


But the jorney was great anyway and bringing there an old Marathon ... no price !

Very nice, we almost met then! And a big congratulation to you for taking the Marathon "back home"... indeed, no price!
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