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Old 05-12-2010, 03:15 AM   #211
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Australian Dirt Bike Magazine have done a launch report. Small interview with the planning manager, Marco Romieri too. They point out a number of times it is basically a TE570 with a 100mm bore that has kept sensible service intervals and uses steel valves to longevity.
Also the standard pipes are very restrictive and putting Arrow pipes on releases another 6kw (8 bhp) on top of the standard 41kw (55 bhp).
I know there are starting to be people out there with the bike now but if anything people can compare their experiences.

Where will be the best place to upload a PDF to download or something?
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Old 05-12-2010, 06:58 AM   #212
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Well, I don't know anyone with the 690. That was my other choice as well, but decided to try the Husky. Bought it to be my "between" bike. Have a dirt bike, and have a "road" bike in the 1200 GSA. Was having a hard time riding with friends on KLR's and KTM 950 with the 1200, they were taking me places I didn't want to go on the 1200. Now it's my turn.

It seems really restricted, but definitely more power than a KLR. Not enough roll on power to lift the front wheel in 2nd gear, and a struggle in first. I was looking forward to some high speed wheelies, but that isn't going to happen. I'm sure new pipe, remap, airbox mods will help...

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Old 05-12-2010, 07:11 AM   #213
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Well, I don't know anyone with the 690. That was my other choice as well, but decided to try the Husky. Bought it to be my "between" bike. Have a dirt bike, and have a "road" bike in the 1200 GSA. Was having a hard time riding with friends on KLR's and KTM 950 with the 1200, they were taking me places I didn't want to go on the 1200. Now it's my turn.

It seems really restricted, but definitely more power than a KLR. Not enough roll on power to lift the front wheel in 2nd gear, and a struggle in first. I was looking forward to some high speed wheelies, but that isn't going to happen. I'm sure new pipe, remap, airbox mods will help...
not are they only restricted, Huskies also take quite awhile to loosen up. Mine could just barely do 3rd gear wheelies in the first 1000 miles. After that, 4th gear all day long now.. A huge difference in power once it finally loosened up.
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Old 05-12-2010, 07:19 AM   #214
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Well, I don't know anyone with the 690. That was my other choice as well, but decided to try the Husky. Bought it to be my "between" bike. Have a dirt bike, and have a "road" bike in the 1200 GSA. Was having a hard time riding with friends on KLR's and KTM 950 with the 1200, they were taking me places I didn't want to go on the 1200. Now it's my turn.

It seems really restricted, but definitely more power than a KLR. Not enough roll on power to lift the front wheel in 2nd gear, and a struggle in first. I was looking forward to some high speed wheelies, but that isn't going to happen. I'm sure new pipe, remap, airbox mods will help...
If you want wheelies in any gear you should have ridden the 690. Mine wheelies in 4th at 55mph just on power and a slight tug of the bars. It will also wheelie at 70mph in 5th with a little seat bounce. 3rd all day long and second and first are much to strong to wheelie in unless you at slow trail speed. Congrats on the new purchase Those 630's look sweet
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Old 05-12-2010, 10:15 PM   #215
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If you want wheelies in any gear you should have ridden the 690. Mine wheelies in 4th at 55mph just on power and a slight tug of the bars. It will also wheelie at 70mph in 5th with a little seat bounce. 3rd all day long and second and first are much to strong to wheelie in unless you at slow trail speed. Congrats on the new purchase Those 630's look sweet
If you want wheelies in any gear you should ride a bike where all the gears are the same, such as, oh um, a KTM 690. 1st, 3rd, 5th, not much different. It's what makes the 690 so special.

Here's a flashback from the security tapes in Mattighofen where we will listen in on the KTM engineers. Hans: "We need something to make our new motorcycle stand out." Franz: "I know. Why don't we take our LC4 640 with its 5 speed transmission and make it into something unique? Yes, let's give it six gears but with a narrower spread than the current five speed. Nobody else will ever think of such an idea." Hans: "We're geniuses! Break out the kirschwasser! Franz, where is the kirschwasser? Did you already drink all the kirshcwasser?"

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Old 05-13-2010, 06:48 AM   #216
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Old 05-13-2010, 07:25 AM   #217
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If you want wheelies in any gear you should ride a bike where all the gears are the same, such as, oh um, a KTM 690. 1st, 3rd, 5th, not much different. It's what makes the 690 so special.

Here's a flashback from the security tapes in Mattighofen where we will listen in on the KTM engineers. Hans: "We need something to make our new motorcycle stand out." Franz: "I know. Why don't we take our LC4 640 with its 5 speed transmission and make it into something unique? Yes, let's give it six gears but with a narrower spread than the current five speed. Nobody else will ever think of such an idea." Hans: "We're geniuses! Break out the kirschwasser! Franz, where is the kirschwasser? Did you already drink all the kirshcwasser?"
I ride my buddies 690 quite a bit - nice bike but the close range tranny defeats the purpose of a dual sport.
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Old 05-13-2010, 07:32 AM   #218
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Defeats is an overstatement but it does force some very high revving or clutch slipping. Both, in my no talent case.
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Old 05-13-2010, 08:18 AM   #219
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I am assuming the 630 has the same ratios on the 610.
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Old 05-17-2010, 01:38 PM   #220
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If you want wheelies in any gear you should ride a bike where all the gears are the same, such as, oh um, a KTM 690. 1st, 3rd, 5th, not much different. It's what makes the 690 so special.

Here's a flashback from the security tapes in Mattighofen where we will listen in on the KTM engineers. Hans: "We need something to make our new motorcycle stand out." Franz: "I know. Why don't we take our LC4 640 with its 5 speed transmission and make it into something unique? Yes, let's give it six gears but with a narrower spread than the current five speed. Nobody else will ever think of such an idea." Hans: "We're geniuses! Break out the kirschwasser! Franz, where is the kirschwasser? Did you already drink all the kirshcwasser?"



It is true - if the 690 can power wheelie in 1st its not too much harder to power wheelie in 5th as the gear ratio's are so tight.

I've been riding my 690 in Colorado for the last 6 mos at +/-8,000 feet. It can not power wheelie in any gear there; all vehicles (I think people too ) suffer a 30%+ powerloss. Then at sealevel it easily power wheelies in 1st and 2nd and almost 3rd (needs a slight pull on bars and/or intentional bum placement). 3rd gear has more power/is closer to being able to powerwheelie at sea level than 1st is at 8,000' - that's all because the tranny is so crazy tight.

Trust me - you don't want to buy a KTM! They lost 115 million last year and I think close to 40 million the first quarter this year. They are desperate, making promises then breaking them and cutting corners pretty fast. Of course everyone is taking it hard in this economy but I still see more integrity in BMW and a long term picture outlook!
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Old 05-17-2010, 01:46 PM   #221
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I am assuming the 630 has the same ratios on the 610.
Here's hoping so -- why would they throw away the #1 best thing about the bike?
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Old 05-17-2010, 01:54 PM   #222
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Here's hoping so -- why would they throw away the #1 best thing about the bike?

I read that the overdrive in 5th and 6th are different and not as deep. I felt that 6th was too tall on the 610.
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Old 05-17-2010, 01:57 PM   #223
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I read that the overdrive in 5th and 6th are different and not as deep. I felt that 6th was too tall on the 610.
I would agree with you, if you kept the final ratio stock. I went up 3 teeth on the rear and now get some decent drive out of 6th gear.
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Old 05-17-2010, 05:40 PM   #224
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I would agree with you, if you kept the final ratio stock. I went up 3 teeth on the rear and now get some decent drive out of 6th gear.
Not me - I love 6th - I am up just one tooth in the rear and ride at 70 to 80 mph real nice.
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Old 05-17-2010, 06:10 PM   #225
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visited Halls sat, steve had several 630s in crates out back. I hope to ride one this saturday, has several presold but one not sold.
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