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Old 07-25-2012, 12:15 PM   #1531
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you've obviously ridden one you tell us.
Aha! I was waiting for when you'd come in here and start shitting all over the place.

To be honest, I don't think I'd want to even consider riding something that expensive. Just the thought of a possible issue, be it a rock chip, someone hitting me from behind, and so on, would be enough to put me off a test ride, at that price point.

I am rooting for these guys, though, by all means. My thinking is, though, that companies who put all their eggs into one very expensive basket often do not survive very long.

Look at Fiat: the 500 is not selling well, at all. Smart is starting to see a decline in sales as well. These are a niche car product, so consider how low the volume is going to be with not just a motorcycle, but a sport-tourer to boot.

I love the idea of this bike, the very concept of it makes me fizz. Who knows, maybe this will be the bargain of the decade on the used market in a few years. I certainly hope so...

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Old 07-25-2012, 12:17 PM   #1532
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The flag waving in this thread is ridiculous. If you want to wax patriotic about American innovation, start a thread about Zero or Brammo, and the availability of realistically practical electric motorcycles.

Motus isn't doing anything fundamentally different, other than limited production and a high price tag.
Now there are two companies that I'm really rooting for. I'd LOVE to have one of their bikes for commuting.

Shame I live in an apartment: no place to plug the fucker in...
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Old 07-25-2012, 12:21 PM   #1533
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Now there are two companies that I'm really rooting for. I'd LOVE to have one of their bikes for commuting.

Shame I live in an apartment: no place to plug the fucker in...
Zero motorcycles are made in Scotts Valley CA, very near to where I live, see them often. I don't think you would have any problems riding their smaller DS model up tight stairs

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Old 07-25-2012, 12:26 PM   #1534
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Zero motorcycles are made in Scotts Valley CA, very near to where I live, see them often. I don't think you would have any problems riding their smaller DS model up tight stairs
I've been tempted! Had to carry an old airhead engine up to my 3rd floor apartment in my old building, was helping a friend re-ring it and do some other work. It'd be interesting to see if I could get an extension cord that's long enough...

Or I could just build a small solar array and hook it up to that.
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:01 PM   #1535
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I think this thread is going around in circles....
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:54 PM   #1536
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I think this thread is going around in circles....
Yeah, we're right back to the "How dare they charge that much!" attitude. I suppose there should be a commission that decides what a new start up should be allowed to charge, or if their product is even appealing enough to be produced at all.
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Old 07-25-2012, 03:52 PM   #1537
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I'd say on this forum (if you stay out of the KLR threads) you are in the distinct minority... 2,000 is what many ADV'ers guys spend on suspension alone...

KLR's?

Yep , I have 3 all of them are '92 models . Less than $3000 in the bunch.
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Old 08-02-2012, 07:00 AM   #1538
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Motorcyclist: "best dreambike"

I imagine that a lot of you got the same email I received this morning, stating that the Motus received the "Best Dreambike" award from Motorcyclist. Financially, that's where the Motus sits for me ... out of my budget. But I like the bike and I hope the company succeeds.

One question: How many legs have been burned by the headers? I've never seen the bike in person, but those very hot pipes sure look like a ticket to painful burns.
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Old 08-02-2012, 09:10 AM   #1539
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Haven't heard anyone whose ridden it ever mention the headers.
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Old 08-02-2012, 11:13 AM   #1540
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I have really long legs ( flatfoot almost any bike) and the headers are way forward of them.
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Old 08-02-2012, 12:54 PM   #1541
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Pointless, maybe there will be a point when they start making and selling them.
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:57 AM   #1542
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I'm not concerned about burns while riding, but those accidental bumps when moving around a hot bike. I guess if it were a problem some moto journalist would have mentioned.


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Old 08-22-2012, 05:49 PM   #1543
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One last post on this bike, and I'll get out of here. Many will disagree, but that's ok, it's only my opinion. I consider this whole thing a joke. I hope the company fails, mostly because of their arrogant attitude. And I fully believe it will. Just like Excelsior-Henderson, and Indian. Oh, and don't forget about Ridley. And most of the tiny companies that were assembling Harley clones from aftermarket parts have also fallen by the wayside.Yes, Indian will fail again, even though it now belongs to Polaris. Indian seems doomed to fail 1000 times, unless someone finally realizes it won't work, and gives up. The main problem is the price, also the uncertainty of future support. In the first place, both with Indian, EH, and Motus, the bikes are simply not worth the price, or anywhere near it. Certainly not as motorcycles, and none of them have the heritage, history, or name to add on a surcharge, like Harley can get away with. And like Harley or hate them, they are getting away with it, and have been for a long time. For that matter, so do Ducati and BMW. Victory has been pretty successful, because they offer value for the money, and a reasonably priced alternative to Harley, just like the Japanese do, and from a long established company. I do think they would do better if they quit comparing themselves to Harley, and started selling their bikes on their own merits. The one Cinderella story in all this is Triumph, part of their success was just plain luck, but they were also started up and run as a business, by a businessman, who did not have to raise outside capitol. They built quality motorcycles at reasonable prices, and they started out with several models. And they did not start out with a retro model. Unlike Indian and EH, something about the Triumph name resonated with potential customers, and their bikes were not "exclusive" something which I consider to be a big part of their success. The magazines also liked them. I like them. I see them as a European alternative to Asian bikes, and a good one. They made it over the first hurdles, and are now firmly established.

So while I have no interest in Motus, their bike, their company, or their attitude, I do hope they don't wind up costing investors and a few customers a fortune, like EH and a multitude of companies that tried to bring back Indian did.

One more word about Indian. Both the Kawasaki Drifters, the 1500 and the 800, were far superior to a "real" fake Indian, and sold for reasonable prices, and even they failed. The "new" Indian still has a copy of the Harley EVO engine, with just a few minor changes, mostly cosmetic.
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:59 PM   #1544
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Don't forget Norton...

your argument falls apart because Motus isn't copying the Harley engine or styling (thank dog).

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Old 08-22-2012, 06:33 PM   #1545
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The price is insulting, but even more so, is throwing on GIVI cases, a sargent seat, and tons of other aftermarket parts that didn't cost them anything to develop, they just threw it on there and are charging like they engineered all of it from scratch.
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