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Old 12-25-2012, 06:14 PM   #1801
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Jesus, it really is all about you isn't it. I'm curious - Is there anyone left here who isn't completely worn out on this guy yet? Do we really have to be subjected to posts comparing a dumbass Vulcan 750 to something as cool, potentially unique, and low production as a MOTUS?




Good, then you have no business here. Don't go away mad, just go away.
I shall be anxiously awaiting the pictures you post of your new Motus.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:41 PM   #1802
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I shall be anxiously awaiting the pictures you post of your new Motus.
I'm not saying I'm buying one.

That of course has nothing to to with the fact that you are comparing a state of the art, low production motorcycle with top shelf components to a piece of shit Vulcan that hasn't changed since 1985. You are a blohard idiot of biblical proportions.
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:41 AM   #1803
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Top shelf components?

That off the self hard luggage and generic coil packs sure look the part.
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:46 AM   #1804
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Top shelf components?

That off the self hard luggage and generic coil packs sure look the part.
that "off the shelf" stuff is made by the same company that provides oem luggage to many bike mfr'rs.

the rest sounds pretty top shelf to most people

•Electronic Fuel Injection
•Electronic throttle control
•720w alternator
•Ohlins R&T NIX adjustable front suspension
•Progressive mono-shock rear suspension w/ remote preload adjuster
•Brembo calipers
•Forged aluminum wheels w/ wave rotors
•Powerlet port
•Michelin Pilot Road 3 tires
•Removable side cases by Givi
•Premium seat by Sargent
•20,000 mi XW-ring chain by RK
•Hybrid rear sprocket w/ lifetime warranty
•Centerstand
•2 year warranty unlimited mileage
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Old 12-26-2012, 03:06 PM   #1805
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that "off the shelf" stuff is made by the same company that provides oem luggage to many bike mfr'rs.

the rest sounds pretty top shelf to most people

•Electronic Fuel Injection
•Electronic throttle control
•720w alternator
•Ohlins R&T NIX adjustable front suspension
•Progressive mono-shock rear suspension w/ remote preload adjuster
•Brembo calipers
•Forged aluminum wheels w/ wave rotors
•Powerlet port
•Michelin Pilot Road 3 tires
•Removable side cases by Givi
•Premium seat by Sargent
•20,000 mi XW-ring chain by RK
•Hybrid rear sprocket w/ lifetime warranty
•Centerstand
•2 year warranty unlimited mileage
It would be nice if they used the Ohlins electronic suspension, now that Ducati dropped it on the MS1200. It also doesn't say that the rear shock is Ohlins in that list but the material suggests that it is.

I believe that the list should include Akrapovic.

I think if any of us were to spec out a bike, those are the suppliers we would use.

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Old 12-26-2012, 03:44 PM   #1806
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that "off the shelf" stuff is made by the same company that provides oem luggage to many bike mfr'rs.

the rest sounds pretty top shelf to most people

•Electronic Fuel Injection
•Electronic throttle control
•720w alternator
•Ohlins R&T NIX adjustable front suspension
•Progressive mono-shock rear suspension w/ remote preload adjuster
•Brembo calipers
•Forged aluminum wheels w/ wave rotors
•Powerlet port
•Michelin Pilot Road 3 tires
•Removable side cases by Givi
•Premium seat by Sargent
•20,000 mi XW-ring chain by RK
•Hybrid rear sprocket w/ lifetime warranty
•Centerstand
•2 year warranty unlimited mileage
Exactly. How many manufacturers include all of that on their models? How many purchasers of $20,000 + motorcycles immediately change the seat, exhaust, and suspension?

I'm not suggesting a $30,000 MOTUS is cheap, but it certainly comes out of the box with a lot of top shelf components. As a point of comparison, my brother's 1200 multi was $27,000 by the time he got done changing the exhaust/fueling, seat, and having the finish on the cases matched to the bike.

But just think how much money he would have saved if he bought a Vulcan 750 how utterly fucking retarded.
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Old 12-26-2012, 04:12 PM   #1807
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Exactly. How many manufacturers include all of that on their models? How many purchasers of $20,000 + motorcycles immediately change the seat, exhaust, and suspension?

I'm not suggesting a $30,000 MOTUS is cheap, but it certainly comes out of the box with a lot of top shelf components. As a point of comparison, my brother's 1200 multi was $27,000 by the time he got done changing the exhaust/fueling, seat, and having the finish on the cases matched to the bike.

But just think how much money he would have saved if he bought a Vulcan 750 how utterly fucking retarded.
If this company is successful enough to survive, at some point they may produce some of that list of components reducing the cost of production and of course the same will occur as they increase production. I'm not sure what their production goals are. Does anyone think they would like to be selling this bike for $20K in five years at 5 times early production numbers? Would they on the other hand prefer to keep numbers low at $30K?
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:29 PM   #1808
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I just wish somebody would buy one and post about it in this thread so you FFs could shut the hell up for minute
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:44 PM   #1809
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The problem

You can't buy one.



Company F = the Sport Touring market. ALL OF IT!

The Triumph Sprint, Tiger1050 and now Trophy
The BMW RT, K1300 series and now 1600
The Concours
The FJR
The Moto Guzzi Norge
The Honda ST series/VFR, NT700V
The Ducati Multistrada
..... I May have missed a couple.

The point is. The Motus is a high priced and VERY small piece of a VERY small piece of the pie. All the bikes listed above are great bikes! All of the Bikes listed above have good to great dealer networks. All of the bikes above are priced at a third less to half the cost of the Motus.

Tell me again how you think Motus will make it. If a larger company (such as Polaris) bought them they just might have a chance. MIGHT!
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:16 PM   #1810
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It would be nice if they used the Ohlins electronic suspension, now that Ducati dropped it on the MS1200. It also doesn't say that the rear shock is Ohlins in that list but the material suggests that it is.

I believe that the list should include Akrapovic.
Akrapovic should be on the list, as should Oz for the forged wheels. The Brembos are monobloc caliper as well.

The shock is an Ohlins TTX - which offers high and low speed compression and rebound, a ~$1500 piece.
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:29 PM   #1811
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Akrapovic should be on the list, as should Oz for the forged wheels. The Brembos are monobloc caliper as well.

The shock is an Ohlins TTX - which offers high and low speed compression and rebound, a ~$1500 piece.
All of this is inconsequential and performs no better than a Vulcan 750.
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:44 PM   #1812
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Jerry... Is that you?
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:02 PM   #1813
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All of this is inconsequential and performs no better than a Vulcan 750.


I wonder if he's on any Ford F-150 Lightning or Raptor forums preaching the '93 V6 S10 gospel.


This is a thread full of hilarity
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:12 PM   #1814
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Why pay more?

I mean, look, they both have an engine, two wheels, and handlebars. I just can't see any difference. Those MOTUS guys are just ripping you off of $29,950.00, when you could have purchased an equally performing Vulcan 750 for, say, about 50 bucks.
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:19 PM   #1815
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Why pay more?

I mean, look, they both have an engine, two wheels, and handlebars. I just can't see any difference. Those MOTUS guys are just ripping you off of $29,950.00, when you could have purchased an equally performing Vulcan 750 for, say, about 50 bucks.
Unfortunately, you can still probably buy a 1983 Vulcan 750.............it does not appear that the Motus can be purchased yet at any price. What a conundrum.
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