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Old 09-24-2009, 09:05 AM   #16
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While I wish them luck, they're stumbling in to a hyper-competitive market. Their bikes will expected to be competitive with FJR's, Connies, and Honda ST/VFR's in performance, styling, reliability and price. Add to that impossible task the handicaps of having no dealer base and no aftermarket.

If they say they're going to pursue the 'premium' side of the market, then they have to compete with RT's and GT's, which means their styling, ergonomics and quality have to be up a notch, and again they don't have the decades of history or the rider community.

They might as well be releasing a 480-pound 600 supersport, with 85 hp, heavy suspension, soft brakes, and 1990 styling that costs $19,000.
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Old 09-24-2009, 10:56 AM   #17
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I bet this bike will someday end up on a list with Duke Nukem Forever, the new Packard, the new Studebaker XUV, etc.
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Old 09-24-2009, 01:31 PM   #18
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Old 09-24-2009, 04:20 PM   #19
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Given Pratt & Miller's attention to detail and motorsports pedigree/expertise, this is one start-up moto company I'm really interested in following.
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Old 09-25-2009, 10:36 AM   #20
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A sport touring bike built in Alabama? There's got to be a joke in there somewhere. Like, "What would they call it -- a Yammerhaw S-K-O-A-L?"
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Old 09-25-2009, 12:23 PM   #21
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A sport touring bike built in Alabama? There's got to be a joke in there somewhere.
I was wondering the same thing. Perhaps the should call it the Irony.
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Old 09-25-2009, 05:24 PM   #22
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Old 09-25-2009, 08:19 PM   #23
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A sport touring bike built in Alabama? There's got to be a joke in there somewhere. Like, "What would they call it


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Old 09-25-2009, 09:13 PM   #24
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It won't compete in price because it can't, any more than the other small American companies can (Big Dog, Boss Hoss, etc.). But it might not need to; there's a niche market for highly unique American motorcycles.
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Old 01-22-2010, 04:39 PM   #25
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I'm paying attention.......

Any connection with the LeMans winning Z06's has me on board! A simple (hyd. valve) engine in a contemporary chassis/light weight has to be a winner....direct gasoline injection, good luggage all built at an American price will compete favorably with offshore offerings.....take a look at the new RT.....can you say product cheapening? As the dollar crumbles, a domestic product will become well priced....I've signed up for the Motus email list. Bruce
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Well, lets see. The Saab 93 had a V-4 engine, but was from a European Ford.

Those exhaust headers close to your leg look to be a little hot. Engine that size won't be light either.

Another answer to a question nobody asked?
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Old 01-23-2010, 03:53 PM   #27
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Well, lets see. The Saab 93 had a V-4 engine, but was from a European Ford.

Those exhaust headers close to your leg look to be a little hot. Engine that size won't be light either.

Another answer to a question nobody asked?
535# with bags.....not bad: MOTORCYCLE OF THE UNITED STATES?
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Old 01-23-2010, 04:18 PM   #28
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Direct injection? and they're working with Katech. I've been wondering who is going to be the first to apply direct injection to a motorcycle. BMW has been doing it for some time in their cars starting with the 335. I'm not sure if any Honda autos use it. The advantages are pretty impressive.
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Old 01-23-2010, 04:51 PM   #29
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Ford is using Direct Injection now with turbos in their newest gasoline engine, the ecoboost.

I've been wondering for a while why it hasn't been done on bikes. Maybe too heavy? I've been reading it requires a lot of fuel pressure.

I like the idea of it. I've been keeping up with the V4 since they announced it was in development. It's going to be a nice engine.

Without mass production capabilities and a dealer network, they'll be the American Moto Morini.
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Old 01-23-2010, 05:58 PM   #30
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Ford is using Direct Injection now with turbos in their newest gasoline engine, the ecoboost.

I've been wondering for a while why it hasn't been done on bikes. Maybe too heavy? I've been reading it requires a lot of fuel pressure.

I like the idea of it. I've been keeping up with the V4 since they announced it was in development. It's going to be a nice engine.

Without mass production capabilities and a dealer network, they'll be the American Moto Morini.
The GM LLT V-6 is direct injection as well as the LNF I-4. I used Honda and BMW as examples because they build motorcycles as well as cars. If you want, you can include Suzuki.
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