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Old 03-12-2014, 10:42 AM   #3106
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Good they're expanding their product line
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Old 03-12-2014, 12:56 PM   #3107
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This pic was posted on their FB page. Apparently they're stuffing V4's into RZR's in their spare time. Looks like they have plenty of room for it.
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Old 03-12-2014, 01:04 PM   #3108
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Ive been watching for these bikes to be released since they were announced and Im still excited for them. Bummed, at the price point though and certainly wont be able to afford one for a very long time....
I hope they're amazing bikes the exceed everyone's expectations and that they build lots of them.

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Old 03-12-2014, 04:47 PM   #3109
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This pic was posted on their FB page. Apparently they're stuffing V4's into RZR's as a way to generate some income because they disenchanted all of their potential customers.

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Old 03-12-2014, 05:51 PM   #3110
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Ive been watching for these bikes to be released since they were announced and Im still excited for them. Bummed, at the price point though and certainly wont be able to afford one for a very long time....
I hope they're amazing bikes the exceed everyone's expectations and that they build lots of them.

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Our grandchildren MIGHT like them one day maybe.
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Old 03-17-2014, 12:06 AM   #3111
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What is a Motus? I can't remember what this thread is about?
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Old 03-17-2014, 01:30 AM   #3112
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The bike has been basically unchanged for the last year. I'm wondering if the production issues are more regulatory/bureaucratic in nature... as in getting the bike through the EPA/NHTSA approval process.

A couple years ago, while I was in the UK on business, I stopped by the huge motorcycle show in Birmingham. Lots of neat bikes that we can't get here in America, like the Honda VFR1200 Crosstourer (adventure-ized version of the VFR sport tourer), KTM Freeride 350, etc. Why? Because it costs hundreds of thousands to perhaps a million dollars to get a bike through the regulatory process. Even though Honda has pushed the VFR1200 through, because the engine in the Crosstourer is slightly different (cam profiles), they have to go through the entire regulatory process again. Same with KTM; the Freeride 350 has a detuned 350 EXC-F engine but would have to go through the process.

This isn't just a matter of money, but also of time. Nothing is fast when you run it through the federal bureaucracy... they're not interested in time to market because what does that matter to the EPA or the NHTSA? The problem with a parasitic bureaucracy is that it leads to a business environment where only large companies, or companies that have lots of money around them, can successfully launch in regulated markets.

I hope Motus launches... and I probably will consider one. That engine does sound fantastic. If I can take a little off of the exhaust note, so it's more like a stock Corvette sound... quiet and rumbly unless you've got the throttle open... then it would be perfect. Obnoxious, but only when I want it to be.
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Old 03-17-2014, 10:43 AM   #3113
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This isn't just a matter of money, but also of time. Nothing is fast when you run it through the federal bureaucracy... they're not interested in time to market because what does that matter to the EPA or the NHTSA? The problem with a parasitic bureaucracy is that it leads to a business environment where only large companies, or companies that have lots of money around them, can successfully launch in regulated markets.
It is certainly an expense and takes some time. But these days, if you know what you're doing and your engine/software meet the standards, it is a predictable expense and time - a standard cost of doing business that all mfgs work through. If this is Motus' problem, then it is one which should have been anticipated and factored into their delivery schedules.

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Old 03-17-2014, 02:14 PM   #3114
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I think they got all their approvals.
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Old 03-18-2014, 08:28 AM   #3115
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http://www.motorcycle.com/manufactur...pressions.html
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Old 03-18-2014, 09:00 AM   #3116
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That is one very gushing first impression report... then again:

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For now, horsepower figures are not being released, but I wouldn’t be surprised if final figures revealed a number north of 160 when rated at the crankshaft. Considering the MST’s claimed dry weight of about 540 pounds (about 580 ready to ride), it’ll be the most exciting sport-touring motorcycle on the market in America
...makes me question the guy's objectivity just a little bit.
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Old 03-18-2014, 09:37 AM   #3117
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That reads like a fresh update. EPA tests soon.
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Old 03-18-2014, 09:49 AM   #3118
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That reads like a fresh update. EPA tests soon.
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By Neale Bayly March 17, 2014
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:09 AM   #3119
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That reads like a fresh update. EPA tests soon.
Did I read it right? He rode the bikes (again), Oct. of last year.......Why the five month wait to write the story?
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Old 03-18-2014, 04:25 PM   #3120
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These guys are taking too long to come to market, I've given up on them for now. Hell, the new EBR hit the market much quicker than Motus. What's up with that?
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