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Old 04-26-2011, 09:21 AM   #331
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Let's try this. You might get more responses in Head explody. If you want even more try Road warriors.
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Old 04-26-2011, 09:45 AM   #332
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That engine does sound good. Reminds me of the older Viffers with the right pipe.
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Old 04-26-2011, 09:52 AM   #333
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That fact that it is not a shaft drive is a huge selling point for some of us. :)
Yes, along with a lot of other things it's not, I imagine.

Two very different takes on building a sporty, 1650cc tourer, that's for sure.
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Old 04-26-2011, 10:07 AM   #334
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No.
Motus just happens to deploy a trellis backbone similar to the trellis that Ducati made famous but there is no link at all between the designers at Motus and the designers at Ducati.

At the minimum they are heavily influenced by Euro design concepts especially Italian design.

The angles and proportions are extrmemly European. I have trouble finding much Japonese design influence in the Motus.

Being American made they should be less expensive than the Ducati Imports.

How does Motus support their bikes through factory trained mechanics, parts distribution, accessories, and warranty issues ?
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:17 AM   #335
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Being American made they should be less expensive than the Ducati Imports.
Just like H-D's, right?

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Motus doesn't sell their bikes yet.
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:58 AM   #336
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Just like H-D's, right?




Motus doesn't sell their bikes yet.

Ducati makes more expensive factory production models than HD.

And Ducati accessories and clothing are way more expensive than HD. I know because I own a Ducati and have owned 3 Harleys (both are Great bikes)


Is Motus assembling their bikes with documented American Union labor like Harley does ?

or is Motus anti Union ?

Also, what is your impression of the Euro Design of the Motus ?

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How does Motus support their bikes through factory trained mechanics, parts distribution, accessories, and warranty issues ?

Are they linked to Polaris or another company that already has distribution and sales networks setup ?

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Old 04-26-2011, 12:02 PM   #337
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This thing sounds terrific!





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Old 04-26-2011, 12:03 PM   #338
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:11 PM   #339
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Is it me or is the bike really loud?
I mean it sounds awesome in the video but if I'm going to sport TOUR I want something that won't wear out my ears.
Don't get me wrong, though, the bike looks and sounds pretty awesome so far. I wish I was in the position to consider one.
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:14 PM   #340
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I'm sure any bike in it's final version will have to meet all certification standards for noise/emissions, but I do hope they keep the Guzzi on steroids tunes alive. I'm all for "quiet" on my rides, but it doesn't need to sound like a sewing machine to provide all day comfort. Tough times for established Brands, I wish them luck as I would love to see a U.S. offering I would really want to buy.

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Old 04-26-2011, 12:17 PM   #341
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Ducati makes more expensive factory production models than HD.
Ducati isn't any more expensive than H-D. I'd say they're both on par if anything, depending on the bike chosen. The most expensive Ducatis are in the low 20s, similar to HD...and both have multiple models well below that. HD might even have more $20K+ models.

The exception would be the R model SBKs or the D16RR, neither of which are made anymore...and are borderline "production models" anyway, especially the D16RR.

Agreed that Ducati clothes are uber expensive though. I still haven't figure out why, other than being a brand thing. Most are goofy euro-style anyway, so no big loss.

Back on topic...that Motus does sound sweet!!
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:20 PM   #342
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Ducati isn't any more expensive than H-D. I'd say they're both on par if anything, depending on the bike chosen. The most expensive Ducatis are in the low 20s, similar to HD...and both have multiple models well below that. HD might even have more $20K+ models.

The exception would be the R model SBKs or the D16RR, neither of which are made anymore...and are borderline "production models" anyway, especially the D16RR.

Agreed that Ducati clothes are uber expensive though. I still haven't figure out why, other than being a brand thing. Most are goofy euro-style anyway, so no big loss.

Back on topic...that Motus does sound sweet!!
It sounds kind of like Ducati meets a Speed Triple which is not a bad thing.

Do you like the Euro design of the Motus or would you like to see something that is totally different ?
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:38 PM   #343
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Do you like the Euro design of the Motus or would you like to see something that is totally different ?
I really like the design of the Motus. One thing I like about Ducatis is their compact layout, as in the whole cockpit seems very compact. My KTM is the same way, and I find it very comfortable and confident inspiring. I haven't seen a Motus in person, but it looks to be similar.
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:38 PM   #344
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Ducati makes more expensive factory production models than HD.

And Ducati accessories and clothing are way more expensive than HD. I know because I own a Ducati and have owned 3 Harleys (both are Great bikes)


Is Motus assembling their bikes with documented American Union labor like Harley does ?

or is Motus anti Union ?

Also, what is your impression of the Euro Design of the Motus ?

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How does Motus support their bikes through factory trained mechanics, parts distribution, accessories, and warranty issues ?

Are they linked to Polaris or another company that already has distribution and sales networks setup ?
It's Alabama. Right to Work state, thankfully. Means it'll be assembled by people who want to work. :) Sadly,the power plant will likely be assembled in Michigan.

There's no clue about how they'll support the bike, right now all we know is that they're planning on making them, no indication on how they will be selling them, where they will be selling them, what the warranty will be, etc.

As for the Euro design, what's the alternative? The big chromed bagger market is well served by HD and Polaris already, the Germans and Honda have the luxo-barge thing down. This bike is a large displacement spiritual kin to the Ducati ST line, the VFR800's, the Sprint ST's, etc.
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:44 PM   #345
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Ducati makes more expensive factory production models than HD.
And H-D makes more expensive factory production models than Ducati.


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Is Motus assembling their bikes with documented American Union labor like Harley does ?

or is Motus anti Union ?
Motus is not producing bikes yet. I don't know what their stance re: unions is. Given their base in Birmingham, I could wager a guess though.

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Also, what is your impression of the Euro Design of the Motus?
I don't know what their "Euro Design" is exactly, but I think the bike looks okay. Understated, with the engine featured prominently.


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How does Motus support their bikes through factory trained mechanics, parts distribution, accessories, and warranty issues ?

Are they linked to Polaris or another company that already has distribution and sales networks setup ?
And for the second time, Motus doesn't support its bikes because it isn't producing them. They have two prototypes. They have not announced any affiliations with Polaris or any other established companies. When the time comes to support customers' bikes I'm sure they will have a plan. Will there be a boutique on every suburban corner? Probably not.
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