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Old 09-09-2011, 02:33 PM   #661
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Looking forward to it.
Hope it's at the CW Long Beach M/C Show in early Dec.

Also hope the FD will not catch fire like some other shaftdrive bike.
Never heard of a Guzzi or Japanese FD burning up!
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Old 09-09-2011, 04:40 PM   #662
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Motus has obviously hit a nerve with the BMW crowd, at least. The dumb ones are coming out of the woodwork to spray their ignorance around.
Why are emotions going to the extreme? I like BMW's for what they are, bikes, but I want to see the Motus too. The "BMW crowd" is not represented by the subjective conjecture being used to argue the other side any more than the "non-BMW crowd" is on the other. From what I can tell, there are 2 or 3 in this thread creating all the noise.
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Old 09-09-2011, 04:47 PM   #663
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Old 09-09-2011, 04:53 PM   #664
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I'm still waiting for Motus to announce that their engine will also be used in a new racing class. Something like the Formula Fords. I bet it wouldn't take much to get their engine to produce 300+ HP with a turbo and still be reliable as the day is long. Not that racers would need that much power.

My real point here is that something tells me there's more to Motus than just making several hundred bikes a year. The bikes are the icing on the cake, the showcase for the engine.
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it would be a great engine for a dwarf car

I agree with these guys. This engine would be great in a spec racing series. It would also be bad-ass in a lightweight sports car like a Caterham 7.
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Old 09-09-2011, 04:55 PM   #665
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I don't see any reason to close this thread.. so long as we continue to be civil, posting drivel is not a violation of forum rules.. Use the Ignore function to ignore posts from those that annoy you.

Speaking of "BMW crowd", I don't think this bike's for them.. there's no ABS, no electronic suspension adjustment, no electrically adjustable screen, no shaft drive, no mileage computer, etc....

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Old 09-09-2011, 05:10 PM   #666
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Old 09-09-2011, 05:17 PM   #667
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Speaking of "BMW crowd", I don't think this bike's for them.. there's no ABS, no electronic suspension adjustment, no electrically adjustable screen, no shaft drive, no mileage computer, etc....

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Au contraire mes amis. I serially own bmw's and I'm interested in this.
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Old 09-09-2011, 05:19 PM   #668
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Old 09-09-2011, 05:28 PM   #669
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Speaking of "BMW crowd", I don't think this bike's for them.. there's no ABS, no electronic suspension adjustment, no electrically adjustable screen, no shaft drive, no mileage computer, etc....
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To be perfectly honest, I have to like the bike first (in my case a k1200r), but if all that unnecessary but great crap is available -- got to have it! If I love the Motus and it doesn't come with all that fun and unnecessary crap -- fuck, I'll take it. Would love to be able to by a US bike. That I liked.
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Old 09-11-2011, 09:24 PM   #670
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Chill Mass dude. I'm a big BMW fan and can't wait to give the Motus a try. (Though I am a little weirded-out by some of the responses here...) So, looking at the engine blow-up, are heads and cylinders an integral casting (with sleeves, obviously)?

http://www.motusmotorcycles.com/kmv4.html
It appears the cylinders and heads are a common casting. It seems unusual today but the old Drake Offenhauser engines were done that way.
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Old 09-11-2011, 09:33 PM   #671
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It appears the cylinders and heads are a common casting. It seems unusual today but the old Drake Offenhauser engines were done that way.
The parting line you can see in the photo is the interface between the heads and the block. The crankcase and cylinders are one piece and the heads are another. Here's a nice write up.
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Old 09-11-2011, 09:44 PM   #672
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The parting line you can see in the photo is the interface between the heads and the block. The crankcase and cylinders are one piece and the heads are another. Here's a nice write up.
It's really hard to tell isn't it. In that photo it looks like the cylinder bores are in the upper crankcase casting and the pistons are not all the way installed in the bore. The head is certainly thick though.

I saw the writeup in Hot Rod magazine at a friend's place and looked for the issue on the stands but missed it. Thanks for posting the link to it. That's one of the few magazines left that actually takes things apart and understands what they're doing when they do. ;)

Here's the pic we needed that shows all.
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And this one of the head.


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Old 09-11-2011, 09:50 PM   #674
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These look a little scary to me. I wonder about the durability of pistons with skirts that short.

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Old 09-11-2011, 11:21 PM   #675
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These look a little scary to me. I wonder about the durability of pistons with skirts that short.


Don't EVER pull apart a modern liter bike than.

The newer super sports with almost universally have stripper style short skirts, they have to do something to keep the mass down so the the pistons don't tear the ends off of the rods. While the dimensions on this motor are more conservative than a say an R1 or S1000RR (that are significantly more over-square) I wouldn't worry to much about it. K-Tech has a reputation for building bullet proof race machinery. Check out the endurance cars they build motors for and check how many failures those monsters have.
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