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Old 02-13-2012, 12:10 AM   #886
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It'll probably jump right out of your hands and lay down on its side, just like those damned Guzzis do...

....and Rocket IIIs

Honestly, its a non-factor, usually what they do is counter-spin the tranny (and shaft in the case of the rocket) which minimizes the torque over from the parallel mounted motor.

On the Rocket you only notice motor pulling at idle, that is a 2300cc engine, so I doubt the Motus will be terribly intimidating.
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Old 02-13-2012, 01:35 AM   #887
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It'll probably jump right out of your hands and lay down on its side, just like those damned Guzzis do...
No they don't. Guzzis just nudge your thigh and say "come on, lets go"
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Old 02-13-2012, 01:53 AM   #888
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I get all of the 'Buy American' vibe... but what will this bike honestly do better than a VFR1200? Yes, it's 100 lbs lighter, with about the same horsepower, but...
That's enough to pique my interest, right there.

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Old 02-13-2012, 06:11 AM   #889
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I get all of the 'Buy American' vibe... but what will this bike honestly do better than a VFR1200? Yes, it's 100 lbs lighter, with about the same horsepower, but it's a largely unproven motor (Chevy small blocks aren't designed to live at above-3000 RPM for most of their service live) that has some design issues in a motorcycle.
A whole bunch more torque is one thing your missing.

Beyond that, if a small block chevy can't spend most of its life above 3000 rpm someone needs to tell 10's of thousands of boat owners that Mercruiser hosed them with an inadequate engine.

It's all in how they are built - bore, stroke, cam grind, etc. You can make a small block chevy spend its life at 6000 rpm if that's what you want.
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Old 02-13-2012, 09:23 AM   #890
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A whole bunch more torque is one thing your missing.

Beyond that, if a small block chevy can't spend most of its life above 3000 rpm someone needs to tell 10's of thousands of boat owners that Mercruiser hosed them with an inadequate engine.

It's all in how they are built - bore, stroke, cam grind, etc. You can make a small block chevy spend its life at 6000 rpm if that's what you want.
+1, and other than the basic design dimensions like bore spacing, crank spacing, etc, don't anyone think that a single part on this motor carries any Chevy part numbers. As for the 'fragile' exhaust positioning, how often are dumping your bikes?
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Old 03-08-2012, 09:12 PM   #891
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Motus in Daytona

I am heading over to Daytona on Wednesday and wondered if I would be able to see the Motus bike again this year. Last year I saw it in Daytona at the IMS. I went to the Motus web site and couldn't find anything on there about them being in Daytona. I clicked the Contact Us link and sent in a question about whether they would be in Daytona or not.

This is the reply I got:


Yes, Dan, we will definitely be there. Come by Daytona Ducati/Triumph/BMW Thursday-Saturday 3/15-3/17 and hang with us. The address is: 118 East Fairview Avenue, Daytona Beach, FL 32114 and it is really easy to find.

We will have a couple of bikes on their patio and, if you can do me a big favor when you roll up- please tell one of the staff members that you came to see the Motus! The more grassroots interest/inquiries, the better chance that they will carry the brand for us.

Files attached.

See you down there.

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I thought it was pretty cool to get a reply from the president. Very Buellish imo. So, I will be riding my Buell over to look at the Motus and make sure the dealership knows I am there to look at the Motus. Meet me there Thursday and say hi.
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Old 03-09-2012, 07:39 PM   #892
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Got this video emailed to me today

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Old 03-09-2012, 07:53 PM   #893
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All right. Sounds like all the questions about pricing will be answered by bike week.

It's gonna be expensive, but I think they're going to sell every one they make.
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Old 03-09-2012, 09:50 PM   #894
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Motus will be at Bike Week 2012. Big promises, hope the dream comes true 1
Did you happen to look at posts 891 and 892?
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:11 AM   #895
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Looks like the Direct Injection is gone:

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news...fuel-injection
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Old 03-14-2012, 01:03 AM   #896
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Looks like the Direct Injection is gone:

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news...fuel-injection
Damn!

And with it, any likelihood of superior fuel economy, along with superior range from the 23L tank.

Still likely a great bike, and less chance of long periods inactive due to unfixable fuelling failures.

Nevertheless, a key feature gone, IMO. Can't see how they'll make port injection work better than anyone else's.
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Old 03-14-2012, 01:34 AM   #897
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I'm of two minds about it really.

...but I wasn't in the market for a sport tourer anyway.
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:30 AM   #898
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Damn!

And with it, any likelihood of superior fuel economy, along with superior range from the 23L tank.

Still likely a great bike, and less chance of long periods inactive due to unfixable fuelling failures.

Nevertheless, a key feature gone, IMO. Can't see how they'll make port injection work better than anyone else's.
I was wondering the same thing too. For a sport tourer, GDI would have given it an even better range.

GDI is on the cutting edge of the latest advancement in fuel injection and I hoping other manufacturers would follow Motus' lead on this.

They're saying they dropped GDI after their extensive testing with it on the bike because they talked to dealers and enthusiasts and they want to offer a bike that owners can tinker with? It's most likely a cost cutting thing, than a modification to let owners add a power commander. It's too bad GDI is gone.
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:36 AM   #899
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It's most likely a cost cutting thing, than a modification to let owners add a power commander.
Have to admit, that does sound more than merely plausible.
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:47 AM   #900
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Remember, with GDi, fuel pressure is enormously high. The injectors are insanely expensive to repair and replace, and are very highly susceptible to damage and deterioration from water or other contaminats in fuel. At high pressure, water can become as damaging as a laser, and etch the balls, valves and pintles in the injector, causing them to leak or fail.

Last I checked, the average direct injector nozzle that my buddy replaced due to water contamination in fuel cost $560 each.

Wandering around god knows where on a bike, it wouldn't be a bad thing for the bike to run on whatever kind of gas you happen upon.
Maybe that's just me.
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