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Old 04-09-2012, 06:34 PM   #1276
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I think the chain was the right choice. You really can't even call it chain 'maintenance'. Hop it up on the center stand and spray. All of 5 minutes a week (or day if you are on a trip. And when the chain wears out, big whoop, $150 or less for a new chain, and 20 minutes of work. Might as well call tires maintenance.

The chain helps with that raw simple image the bike has with the pushrod engine and such. And puts it more of a SPORT tourer.

And not to mention since people would use the bike for different roads and riding style the option to change ratios is a huge plus for some people.
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Old 04-09-2012, 06:53 PM   #1277
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The more I look at it and think about it... I think they have a good chance of success. 31k for the MST, 37k for the MST-R.
It already has aftermarket everything, seat, brakes, suspension, luggage. And if someone doesn't have a car payment, it's really not out of reach of the average joe. I'm thinking a lot of Harley riders, and car guys will take notice. Not gonna break sales records, but I'm thinking they'll make it.
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Old 04-09-2012, 06:56 PM   #1278
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GB,fair enough.
I'm just deeply disappointed about the wasted oppurtunity an all new clean sheet design would have offered.
A low maintenance sport bike for adults would have appealed to a lot of riders,including myself.
Lower weight than the upright tourers,lower maintenance due to hydraulic valve adjusters,big displacement/high torque/lower rpm for good mpg and a good compromise between racer croutch and sit up and beg seating position could have made a great sportbike for the real world,a.k.a. real Sport-tourer!
But as it is it unfortunately has too many shortcomings and for sure no lower pricetag than the competition to make people look past those...
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:59 PM   #1279
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Just wished the manufacters would do the same...
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Old 04-09-2012, 08:57 PM   #1280
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Dead to me...

Just as stupid a concept these "hedge-fund" wanna be motorcycle riders are riding () Confederate bikes, and dumbass custom choppers a few years ago when they were "cool" (?), they now have a new brand to be seen on.
What a shame- Motus had us all under their spell, but personally, a $37,000.00 bike is dead to me.

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Old 04-09-2012, 09:31 PM   #1281
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So I guess the question is, is anyone on this board actually planning, realistically to buy one? Not, "I'd buy one if I can afford one", but are actually prepared and ready to drop a down payment on one when they become available?
I don't know if the buyer is a member of this board or not, but my local dealer has taken a deposit on one in the last couple weeks. At least one person out there has made the commitment.
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Old 04-09-2012, 09:35 PM   #1282
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I don't know if the buyer is a member of this board or not, but my local dealer has taken a deposit on one in the last couple weeks. At least one person out there has made the commitment.

Without a shaft, TC, ABS, telepathic GPS and a power pegs, seat and screen....









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Old 04-10-2012, 12:31 PM   #1283
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There is a huge difference between people who paid big bucks for those Harley clone choppers 10 years ago, and who will, or won't but the Motus today. The guys who bought the choppers bought them to look cool, not to actually ride. And money was a lot easier to come by back then. Property values were skyrocketing, and you could get the money by taking out a loan on the equity in your home. These days, many people owe more on their home that it is worth, and look at the unemployment rate. It may have improved in many places, but not here in Phoenix, AZ. There are plenty of wealthy people here, Phoenix seems to be a mecca for them. But they don't actually work for a living, and most of them would not be interested in such a bike. If they have any interest in a bike at all, it is going to be a Harley.

Most people who spend big bucks on a bike or a car do so for a status symbol, not because of what the machine can do. There are a lot of Ferraris and Lambos around here, but they are being driven like Toyotas. We may also be the Harley capitol of the country. But the Motus is a complete unknown. It is worthless as a status symbol, and it is not worth twice as much as the FJRs, ZG1400s, and ST1300s and BMWs that most sport tourers tend to ride. BMW at least IS a status symbol. Despite their price, and their crazy depreciation, BMW cars are among the best selling cars here

I personally see nothing but doom and gloom for Motus. IF I were rich, being a lifelong rider, I would buy one, just for the heck of it, and that wonderful exhaust sound. But I would also expect to lose most of my money if I ever tried to sell it.

Simply put, the Motus is a bike aimed at rich people, but it is not the type of bike most rich people want. That's the way I see it anyway.
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Old 04-10-2012, 01:24 PM   #1284
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When you think about it tho, it's not just 'rich' people. I know someone who is on a workin' man's salary, wife + one kid, has their cars paid off, and so he just financed a new Mustang GT for close to what the base MST costs. He's a car guy, not a status symbol guy. So take the same scenario, but someone who is looking for a sport tourer. $31 grand is a lot for a bike, but not a lot in the grand scheme of things. It all depends on priorities. I know kids outta high school that have bought 30k cars (barely affording it), but if it's you priority you don't need to be 'rich'.
It all comes down to marketing and business, can they make it on limited sales?
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Old 04-10-2012, 10:55 PM   #1285
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It all comes down to marketing and business, can they make it on limited sales?
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Old 04-11-2012, 01:37 AM   #1286
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You guys are still here crying?
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Old 04-11-2012, 05:43 AM   #1287
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You guys are still here crying?



Somebody needs to make a cliffnotes verssion of this thread. It'd go something like this:

1. Hey, this new company, Motus, is making a new American motorcycle!
2. Awesome!
3. It's a sport touring machine with a V4!
4. Awesome!
5. A big V4...here it is *insert first pics and articles*
6. Woah...how much HP?
7. Alot
8. gonna be expensive...
9. Gonna be really expensive!
10. Maybe it won't be that expensive
11. Gonna be expensive!
12. Chain drive? WTF!
13. Gonna be less expensive?
14. Gonna be MORE expensive
15. *insert huge argument about business practices and ethics*
16. Motorcycle is revealed
17. SWEET!
18. It sucks.
19. Chain drive? WTF?
20. WANT
21. Gonna be expensive!
22. Maybe not?
23. Yes it is.
24. Price is revealed
25. WHY IS IT SO EXPENSIVE?! IT SUCKS!
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Old 04-11-2012, 07:47 AM   #1288
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Somebody needs to make a cliffnotes verssion of this thread. It'd go something like this:

1. Hey, this new company, Motus, is making a new American motorcycle!
2. Awesome!
3. It's a sport touring machine with a V4!
4. Awesome!
5. A big V4...here it is *insert first pics and articles*
6. Woah...how much HP?
7. Alot
8. gonna be expensive...
9. Gonna be really expensive!
10. Maybe it won't be that expensive
11. Gonna be expensive!
12. Chain drive? WTF!
13. Gonna be less expensive?
14. Gonna be MORE expensive
15. *insert huge argument about business practices and ethics*
16. Motorcycle is revealed
17. SWEET!
18. It sucks.
19. Chain drive? WTF?
20. WANT
21. Gonna be expensive!
22. Maybe not?
23. Yes it is.
24. Price is revealed
25. WHY IS IT SO EXPENSIVE?! IT SUCKS!
That's funny right there . . . . . well done! I couldn't agree more with your summary
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Old 04-11-2012, 08:06 AM   #1289
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That's funny right there . . . . . well done! I couldn't agree more with your summary
That'll save people a lot of time. Can you do this for all the whiney threads? Thanks.
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Old 04-11-2012, 08:36 AM   #1290
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Somebody needs to make a cliffnotes verssion of this thread. It'd go something like this:

1. Hey, this new company, Motus, is making a new American motorcycle!
2. Awesome!
3. It's a sport touring machine with a V4!
4. Awesome!
5. A big V4...here it is *insert first pics and articles*
6. Woah...how much HP?
7. Alot
8. gonna be expensive...
9. Gonna be really expensive!
10. Maybe it won't be that expensive
11. Gonna be expensive!
12. Chain drive? WTF!
13. Gonna be less expensive?
14. Gonna be MORE expensive
15. *insert huge argument about business practices and ethics*
16. Motorcycle is revealed
17. SWEET!
18. It sucks.
19. Chain drive? WTF?
20. WANT
21. Gonna be expensive!
22. Maybe not?
23. Yes it is.
24. Price is revealed
25. WHY IS IT SO EXPENSIVE?! IT SUCKS!
You forgot: "MOTUS? WTF kind of stupid name is that?"

Otherwise, you're spot-on!



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