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Old 01-03-2010, 04:24 PM   #766
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Denver wins, though.
Oops.

Shame Spanky jumped off the bandwagon last week and isn't here to see it.
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Old 01-03-2010, 05:14 PM   #767
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See everyone next season, this was an interesting one.
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Old 01-03-2010, 05:24 PM   #768
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I watched Orton all through college. He's just good enough to break your heart.
Well, it looks like this prediction was spot on.
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Old 01-03-2010, 06:58 PM   #769
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Well, it looks like this prediction was spot on.
Don't blame Orton.

Surely it was a defensive breakdown?
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Old 01-03-2010, 07:02 PM   #770
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Well, it looks like this prediction was spot on.
I think these numbers include the KC game. Here's Orton's season. Not that bad. Twice as many TD's as interceptions. But 20 TD's ties him for sixteenth in the NFL. Midtable. His report card might read: "Good semester, could do better."

Interestingly, Jay Cutler only has 23 TD's, as does McNabb.


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Old 01-03-2010, 08:00 PM   #771
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Old 01-03-2010, 08:18 PM   #772
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Don't blame Orton.

Surely it was a defensive breakdown?
3 picks today. 2 to the same linebacker. And its not Orton's fault?

Granted, the defense gave up 260yd rushing to Jamaal Charles, but they were still in the game til Orton forgot which team had the white unis on.
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Old 01-03-2010, 08:21 PM   #773
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3 picks today. 2 to the same linebacker. And its not Orton's fault?
He didn't give up 44 points.

I didn't watch. Were the picks early, or when the Broncos were forced to throw?
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Old 01-03-2010, 08:22 PM   #774
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Old 01-03-2010, 08:30 PM   #775
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Well, it looks like this prediction was spot on.
Wax is throwing out Orton's stats. The problem is that stats don't show the situation. 2 of the interceptions Orton had today were at horrible times and were back breakers for them. Its one thing to throw a pick on a hail mary play just before halftime. Its another to throw a pick on a 7 yard route over the middle.
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Old 01-03-2010, 08:31 PM   #776
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Wait...it's like..like...puppies and rainbows, and I see a unicorn...

First win of the 2010 season, the Chiefs are on their way to the playoffs.
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Elway is a bum.
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Old 01-03-2010, 08:38 PM   #777
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Wax is throwing out Orton's stats. The problem is that stats don't show the situation. 2 of the interceptions Orton had today were at horrible times and were back breakers for them. Its one thing to throw a pick on a hail mary play just before halftime. Its another to throw a pick on a 7 yard route over the middle.
Well, to be fair, I was talking more about the season than the game. That's why I posted his season stats.

He was getting blamed for being a heartbreaker. But he's not the reason the Broncos aren't in the playoffs. He had a decent season.
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Old 01-03-2010, 09:02 PM   #778
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Well, to be fair, I was talking more about the season than the game. That's why I posted his season stats.

He was getting blamed for being a heartbreaker. But he's not the reason the Broncos aren't in the playoffs. He had a decent season.
He gets really inaccurate when under pressure. He will sail balls and throw picks. Timing doesn't show up in the stats. Orton is a killer when it counts.

When the offense fails to deliver, the blame starts with the QB. Its the QB that touches the ball on every offensive snap and has the option to audible.
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He gets really inaccurate when under pressure. He will sail balls and throw picks. Timing doesn't show up in the stats. Orton is a killer when it counts.

When the offense fails to deliver, the blame starts with the QB. Its the QB that touches the ball on every offensive snap and has the option to audible.
yeah, orton does best in a structured offense in a 3-step drop (5 at the most), short passing routes, with simple, reliable checkdowns. seems like he was tolerable out of the shotgun at purdue as well.

if he has to wait for something to develop, and guys are pouring through the o-line, there's probably gonna be trouble. he's never shown a lot of skill at creating plays.
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He gets really inaccurate when under pressure. He will sail balls and throw picks. Timing doesn't show up in the stats. Orton is a killer when it counts.

When the offense fails to deliver, the blame starts with the QB. Its the QB that touches the ball on every offensive snap and has the option to audible.
Dude, that's too much pressure to put on a guy playing his second year.



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