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Old 05-02-2010, 09:43 PM   #826
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You act like Orton's number isn't up yet? Why Quinn (especially) or Tebow (future) if Orton is OK?
Orton is a fantastic QB until it really matters. Then he breaks your heart. Quinn is going to be a career backup QB. I haven't seen anything that says he is any better than a caretaker until a real starting QB gets healthy or signed.

I am one of those who thinks Tebow is going to be a great QB. Barring injury, of course. I just listen to these analysts and I heard the same things when Brees was getting drafted. Brees has a will to win that is unbelievable. I think Tebow is the same way.

I think Orton will be the starting QB but won't make it through the season. If Tebow isn't developing like the Broncos want, Quinn will take the starting slot.

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Old 05-03-2010, 10:18 AM   #827
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Orton is a fantastic QB until it really matters. Then he breaks your heart. Quinn is going to be a career backup QB. I haven't seen anything that says he is any better than a caretaker until a real starting QB gets healthy or signed.

I am one of those who thinks Tebow is going to be a great QB. Barring injury, of course. I just listen to these analysts and I heard the same things when Brees was getting drafted. Brees has a will to win that is unbelievable. I think Tebow is the same way.

I think Orton will be the starting QB but won't make it through the season. If Tebow isn't developing like the Broncos want, Quinn will take the starting slot.
... Elway certainly had that intangible.

... I'm not so sure your Quinn assessment doesn't also apply to Orton (best role: back-up). We kinda' ended up with Orton last year, just because (not really a proactive trade) ... now we have two "B" QBs that can duke it out for #1 until Tebow is ready.

Simms doesn't seem to have the fire (he laid a turd when given an opportunity) and Brandstater is young and word is, on the out.

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Old 05-03-2010, 11:17 AM   #828
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Simms is already gone. IIRC he was cut prior to receiving a roster bonus in March. I don't think anyone has picked him up either, unless he landed back in Tampa Bay. They always seem to start mini camp with 6-7 QB's in camp.
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Old 05-03-2010, 12:54 PM   #829
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... I'm not so sure your Quinn assessment doesn't also apply to Orton (best role: back-up). We kinda' ended up with Orton last year, just because (not really a proactive trade) ... now we have two "B" QBs that can duke it out for #1 until Tebow is ready.
Quinn is a consistent backup. Orton is a starter, most of the time. When it really starts to matter, he plays like a backup.

I am not sure which is worse. You can game plan around a consistently mediocre QB. Its tough to plan around a streaky QB.
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Old 05-03-2010, 12:57 PM   #830
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Quinn is a consistent backup. Orton is a starter, most of the time. When it really starts to matter, he plays like a backup.

I am not sure which is worse. You can game plan around a consistently mediocre QB. Its tough to plan around a streaky QB.
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Old 05-03-2010, 01:21 PM   #831
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yeah, but Plummer was streaky from game to game, and even quarter to quarter. Orton will be consistent for several games at a time.

Its almost like you need to throw him out there and see what he looks like. When he starts to suck after game 9 or 10 (in the middle of the playoff hunt), you pull him. Orton to get you there and Tebow to put you over the top.
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:27 PM   #832
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]I have no honest idea about Tebow. Even before he became a Bronco I wanted him to succeed--- doubted it, due to the massive anti-press--- Now, I really want him to, just to shut Eastern Sports up. I figured Florida would be in their usual booster range... but it seems to have slipped. I know, I know, it isn't just Eastern SPorts but many pundits. I have read more draft analysis this year than in any year. It really has me wondering how many of these guys actually watch film--- vs how many rely on others (including competitors) to tell them what to think. I'm betting the percent of pundits that can really break down film is small. Really small.

Plus I'm hoping there is more hope for Quinn. It seems like good QBs can really be screwed by the poor team they get drafted into.

(No, I don't claim that ability---I'm just a semi-knowledgable fan)

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Old 05-04-2010, 07:30 PM   #833
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All I know about Tebow is that he is something new and might be a catalyst for the offense.
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:33 PM   #834
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All I know about Tebow is that he is something new and might be a catalyst for the offense.
All I know is I want Clady to heal fast-- really fast.

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Old 05-05-2010, 07:11 AM   #835
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]I have no honest idea about Tebow. Even before he became a Bronco I wanted him to succeed--- doubted it, due to the massive anti-press--- Now, I really want him to, just to shut Eastern Sports up. I figured Florida would be in their usual booster range... but it seems to have slipped. I know, I know, it isn't just Eastern SPorts but many pundits. I have read more draft analysis this year than in any year. It really has me wondering how many of these guys actually watch film--- vs how many rely on others (including competitors) to tell them what to think. I'm betting the percent of pundits that can really break down film is small. Really small.

Plus I'm hoping there is more hope for Quinn. It seems like good QBs can really be screwed by the poor team they get drafted into.

(No, I don't claim that ability---I'm just a semi-knowledgable fan)

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It wasn't just sports pundits from the East that were bashing Tebow without watching film...we even have our own weather man here in the East that followed suit...
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Old 05-07-2010, 09:05 AM   #836
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The hate for Tebow across the NFL has a spokesmodel:

Ray Lewis "shocked" by the help Tim Tebow has received

Posted by Mike Florio on May 7, 2010 9:41 AM ET
We've previously pointed out that Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow could spark contempt and resentment in an NFL locker room. Recent comments from Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis hone in on one of the specific potential sources for the hard feelings players may have for Tebow.

That Tebow is somehow better or more worthy than the rest of them.

Asked by ESPN Radio's Colin Cowherd whether Lewis was shocked by the media attention on the Tebow story prior to the draft, Lewis said (via NFL.com), "The thing I was more shocked by is you see
all the people who were willing to help him. I don't know many people who were willing to help other athletes like that. Jon Gruden loved him to death. You see all these people who took out their personal time to really work with him and make this big issue, big issue, big issue. I don't know why he was any different than anyone else. Every young child has that dream, that same dream that Tebow had. So I don't know why he was bigger . . . than any of the other guys.

"He went to a big program, and, yes, he might be a favorable person, but nobody else in the league, definitely not veteran players, see themselves differently than any other player."

Though Lewis stopped short of saying that this will make Tebow a target of opposing defenders (the Broncos play at Baltimore on October 10), Tebow's bigger concern should be ironing out any hard feelings that may arise in his own locker room, where others may not be thrilled by the budding love affair between Tebow and the fan base and/or Tebow and the head coach, who proclaimed this week that Tebow
has the "it" factor.

Again, it all comes down to how Tebow handles himself. And though others might see Tebow "differently than any other player," we don't believe Tebow carries himself in a way that suggests that he sees himself differently. And we think that if Tebow handles himself the way he always has, he'll win his teammates over and, in time, his foes.


Seriously Ray, piss off!!
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Old 05-07-2010, 06:55 PM   #837
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]I have no honest idea about Tebow. Even before he became a Bronco I wanted him to succeed--- doubted it, due to the massive anti-press--- Now, I really want him to, just to shut Eastern Sports up. I figured Florida would be in their usual booster range... but it seems to have slipped. I know, I know, it isn't just Eastern SPorts but many pundits. I have read more draft analysis this year than in any year. It really has me wondering how many of these guys actually watch film--- vs how many rely on others (including competitors) to tell them what to think. I'm betting the percent of pundits that can really break down film is small. Really small.

Plus I'm hoping there is more hope for Quinn. It seems like good QBs can really be screwed by the poor team they get drafted into.

(No, I don't claim that ability---I'm just a semi-knowledgable fan)

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Totally with you on this.
Tebow strikes me as the Real Deal.
He's not afraid to work hard. He's not afraid to totally change his motion, rather than dig in his heels, act arrogantly and say, "Hey, this is me. Kiss my ass."
He really wants to succeed. And he seems like a class act to me.
I hope he fuckin' kicks ass.
And takes names.
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Totally with you on this.
Tebow strikes me as the Real Deal.
He's not afraid to work hard. He's not afraid to totally change his motion, rather than dig in his heels, act arrogantly and say, "Hey, this is me. Kiss my ass."
He really wants to succeed. And he seems like a class act to me.
I hope he fuckin' kicks ass.
And takes names.
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:57 AM   #839
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:24 PM   #840
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So, y'alls RB situation looks a bit dire...
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