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Old 06-29-2015, 02:13 PM   #1
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crappy trail near Estes Park

Just a heads up if you are thinking of trying Pole Hill Road near Estes Park Colorado. I went out there Saturday and it as no fun at all. Very steep and rocky, I turned around after half a mile or so. They say it gets better after the first mile, I guess I'll never know. Maybe it's more of an MX trail than dual sport.

If anyone here has got past the rough part, I'd be interested to hear about the experience.

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Old 06-29-2015, 02:17 PM   #2
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After the 1st mile I got my 950 in a situation that it was not happy and was steamed at me. It was near the lookout tower.

Have you tried Bunce school rd, Switzerland, stuff like that? Johnny Park is comparative to Pole hill in spots.
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Old 06-29-2015, 02:20 PM   #3
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After the 1st mile I got my 950 in a situation that it was not happy and was steamed at me. It was near the lookout tower.

Have you tried Bunce school rd, Switzerland, stuff like that? Johnny Park is comparative to Pole hill in spots.
Ya, I've done all three of those. Johnny park gets a crap rating from me too.
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Old 06-29-2015, 05:55 PM   #4
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I know that hill!


Theres some good camping up there. Once you crest that first sketchy part with the steep drop to the north it gets much easier. Just a few miles worth of loops. You aren't missing anything spectacular up there. IIRC, there is a point or two where you can look down on Loveland and Estes park. I spent a few July 4th holidays up there watching fireworks. Always seemed like a bunch of kids went up there and got plastered.

Lake Estes in the background.
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Old 06-30-2015, 09:29 AM   #5
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I know that hill!
I'm impressed you got the 800 that far. I know I could have gone all the way on my dr650, but it just wasn't fun. The only good part was finally getting some use out of my skid plate.
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Old 06-30-2015, 09:58 AM   #6
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I'm impressed you got the 800 that far. I know I could have gone all the way on my dr650, but it just wasn't fun. The only good part was finally getting some use out of my skid plate.
AS has some crazy things with that 800!
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Old 06-30-2015, 11:37 AM   #7
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Just a heads up if you are thinking of trying Pole Hill Road near Estes Park Colorado. I went out there Saturday and it as no fun at all. Very steep and rocky, I turned around after half a mile or so. They say it gets better after the first mile, I guess I'll never know. Maybe it's more of an MX trail than dual sport.

If anyone here has got past the rough part, I'd be interested to hear about the experience.

Cheers.
Reads like a good route to me. Other than being a road, not a trail. And being a dead end route (used to be able to ride thru to the East)

Dual sport comes in many different flavors. BMW Whale-Foreskin riding suit crowd to plated dirt bikes.
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Old 06-30-2015, 11:56 AM   #8
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Reads like a good route to me. Other than being a road, not a trail. And being a dead end route (used to be able to ride thru to the East)

Dual sport comes in many different flavors. BMW Whale-Foreskin riding suit crowd to plated dirt bikes.
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I have published thousands of miles of GPS Tracks and the basic way is for true Dual Sport, when he going gets too tough for all, I have Adv bypasses.
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Old 06-30-2015, 11:56 AM   #9
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Reads like a good route to me.
Thats what I was thinking. I'm pretty sure 99% of what I love to ride would be crappy according to the OP.



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Old 06-30-2015, 12:04 PM   #10
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Thats what I was thinking. I'm pretty sure 99% of what I love to ride would be crappy according to the OP.

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That place has some of the crappiest trails in Colorado!
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:17 PM   #11
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Thats what I was thinking. I'm pretty sure 99% of what I love to ride would be crappy according to the OP.


That looks awful...
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Old 06-30-2015, 04:20 PM   #12
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Here's the rating system I put together for the Moose Run. It depends on equipment AND rider ability. I would consider this to be at least one notch below an endure (i.e. A level Moose Run = B level endure)

Rider AbilityBike
IntermediatePlated Dirt Bike or equivalent
A ClassExpertUp to mid-sized dual sport (400-600cc)
You are going to break a bunch of things.

Big-ass adventure bike
BeginnerPlated dirt bike or equivalent
B ClassIntermediateUp to mid-sized dual sport (400-600cc)
Expert Heavy dual sport (KLR650)

You are going to break something.

Big-ass adventure bike
BeginnerMid-Heavy dual sport (400-650cc)
C ClassIntermediate - ExpertLarge adventure Bike (R1200GS)
Disclaimer: Nature is fickle. The above ratings are for good conditions.
A rainstorm can quickly make an easy route difficult.
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Old 06-30-2015, 04:20 PM   #13
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That looks awful...
I think I just threw up a little bit in my mouth....
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:48 AM   #14
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think i have done entire loop at Pole Hill on a KLR. makes you sweat a bit, but i don't remember anything particularly gnarly. (not to blow smoke up own ass)

there is just not that many "nice" easy trails this side of the Front Range.
i did Ski Rd by Allenspark last Sunday to the top. that's another good workout on KLR in a rain.

Johnny Park has only one tricky spot, and its only hard if you have to weave your way around Jeeps that are queuing up for a rock crawling photo session.
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Old 07-01-2015, 01:07 PM   #15
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I feel like "Check out this Crappy Trail" could be a good photo thread.
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