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Old 10-13-2009, 12:16 PM   #106
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In many states -especially Wisconsin, but others have an issue as well, it's near impossible to plate a dirt bike that doesn't come road legal. Because there is only but a trickle of demand, the OEM's don't bother making road legal versions of these and instead most people do what they can to "convert" and register them as road-legal bikes.

That's my whole point.

But as a "long-time" lurker, I'm sure you didn't miss that...

I think you missed my point.
Right now, 2009 / 2010, more OEMS are offering more street legal single cylinder proper dirt bikes than ever before. I have never seen the selection so good as it is right now. From 250's to 690's, whatever you want. Wr 250, TE-610, 690 Enduro. It is all available! No more XL-250's or XT-250's. Great bikes right from the OEM! What more would you like?
It is not the manufacturers fault that they cannot offer a CR500 with a plate. I honestly don't know what you want. I think the selection is fantastic.
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:21 PM   #107
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Give me a bike with a plate on it that I can take and run Senior A in D16 Enduros competitively.

KTM 450 EXC, Yamaha WR 250, KTM 530 EXC.

Maybe a Yamaha TW200 would be more appropriate.
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:21 PM   #108
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I think you missed my point.
Right now, 2009 / 2010, more OEMS are offering more street legal single cylinder proper dirt bikes than ever before. I have never seen the selection so good as it is right now. From 250's to 690's, whatever you want. Wr 250, TE-610, 690 Enduro. It is all available! No more XL-250's or XT-250's. Great bikes right from the OEM! What more would you like?
It is not the manufacturers fault that they cannot offer a CR500 with a plate. I honestly don't know what you want. I think the selection is fantastic.
I want a street legal DIRT bike that weighs under 250lbs from the factory that I can enter into a local enduro (D16 or D17) and have a chance in hell of not only finishing without houring out, but only dropping about 20 or 30 points so that I have a slim possibility of gathering up a trophy in Senior-A class.

I'm not seeing such a bike. All I see is heavy iron pigs with too many cc's and too much weight.

Tel me where I can buy a WR250 that I can plate in WI?
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:26 PM   #109
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Tel me where I can buy a WR250 that I can plate in WI?
You may not like this because it's fuel injected but initial reports are very good.

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/pr...95/0/home.aspx
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:26 PM   #110
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Tel me where I can buy a WR250 that I can plate in WI?
Your local Yamaha dealer. Great bike (but it has a different engine than the regular WR)

Specs Features
GENERAL INFORMATION WR250F WR250R
Manufacturer Yamaha Yamaha
Model Year 2009 2009
Model WR250F WR250R
M.S.R.P. $6,699.00 $6,090.00
ENGINE
Engine 5 titanium valves, DOHC, 4-stroke 4-valve, DOHC, 4-stroke
Displacement 250 cc 250 cc
Bore x Stroke 77 x 53.6 mm 77 x 53.6 mm
Compression Ratio 12.5:1 11.8:1
Carburetion Keihin® FCR 37 Fuel injection
Clutch Multi-plate wet Multi-plate wet
Cooling Liquid-cooled Liquid-cooled
Ignition CDI Direct ignition coil
DIMENSIONS
Length 85.2 in. 85.6 in.
Width 32.5 in. 31.9 in.
Height 51.1 in. 48.4 in.
Weight 260 lbs. 295 lbs. (CA 297 lbs.)
Ground Clearance 14.4 in. 11.8 in.
Wheelbase 58.3 in. 55.9 in.
Fuel Capacity 2.1 gal. 2 gal.
Seat Height 38.6 in. 36.6 in.
DRIVETRAIN
Transmission Constant-mesh 5-speed Constant mesh 5-speed
Final Drive Chain Chain
Suspension Front: Inverted fork, fully adjustable; 11.8 in. travel
Rear: Single shock, fully adjustable; 12.2 in. travel
Front: Inverted fork; fully adjustable; 10.6 in. travel
Rear: Single shock; fully adjustable; 10.6 in. travel
OTHER
Colors Two-tone Team Yamaha Blue / White Two-tone Team Yamaha Blue / White
BRAKES/WHEELS/TIRES
Brakes Front: 250 mm hydraulic single disc
Rear: 245 mm hydraulic single disc
Front: 250 mm hydraulic single disc brake
Rear: 230 mm hydraulic single disc brake
Tires Front: 80/100-21-51M
Rear: 100/100-18-59M
Front: 80/100-21
Rear: 120/80-18
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:28 PM   #111
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You may not like this because it's fuel injected but initial reports are very good.

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/pr...95/0/home.aspx
Wet Weight298 lb (California model 297 lb)
BZZZT!

I've got my XR650L down to that weight. Still too heavy.
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:34 PM   #112
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Wet Weight298 lb (California model 297 lb)
BZZZT!

I've got my XR650L down to that weight. Still too heavy.
Enjoy the ride buddy. I got nothing for you.
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Old 10-13-2009, 02:00 PM   #113
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I want a street legal DIRT bike that weighs under 250lbs from the factory that I can enter into a local enduro (D16 or D17) and have a chance in hell of not only finishing without houring out, but only dropping about 20 or 30 points so that I have a slim possibility of gathering up a trophy in Senior-A class.

I'm not seeing such a bike. All I see is heavy iron pigs with too many cc's and too much weight.

Tel me where I can buy a WR250 that I can plate in WI?
Take a mirror off the 530 and it meets your criteria. Except for maybe the too much power part.
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Old 10-13-2009, 02:18 PM   #114
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Back on topic.
I enjoyed the Long Way Round / Down books and shows.
It didn't inspire me to get a bike but it did reignite my passion for this hobby / sport.

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Old 10-13-2009, 02:24 PM   #115
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I want a street legal DIRT bike that weighs under 250lbs from the factory that I can enter into a local enduro (D16 or D17) and have a chance in hell of not only finishing without houring out, but only dropping about 20 or 30 points so that I have a slim possibility of gathering up a trophy in Senior-A class.

I'm not seeing such a bike. All I see is heavy iron pigs with too many cc's and too much weight.

Tel me where I can buy a WR250 that I can plate in WI?
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A silly question would be what are the others in this class riding?

Why not ride what they ride but just ride it better?

I thought that was what racing was all about.
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Old 10-13-2009, 02:42 PM   #116
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you may be making a common mistake -- attempting to help the questioner find an answer, when, in fact, the complaining is the point.
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Old 10-13-2009, 03:12 PM   #117
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I must fall under the guise of "over cc'ed", because I got the 250lb part, and the plated part.




Edit: and the fuel injection part, and the dual mapping part, and the steering stabilizer part...
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Old 10-13-2009, 04:16 PM   #118
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I liked the shows they where good and showed lots of people why "we" love adv riding so much, personally it helped people understand why I’m about to leave everyone I know and travel the world, yes maybe they had a lot of backup but you have to expect that and as for the bikes, they were given to them for free, whoever gave them the bikes (BMW,KTM anyone) are going to give them their most expensive and impressive bike with every bit of kit that will attract customers to their business, it’s called advertising !!!

As for the wrong bike maybe? I’m going on a 800GS and I love it and as for KTM I won't do business with them, there are only a couple of demos in the uk, I had to go 100 miles to ride a 690 enduro I was interested in rang up to arrange this, rang up the day before and when I got there they had lent it out to the police for a sting operation that morning by the person who I was dealing with, NOT HAPPY to say the least, they lent me something close and I asked for them to put together a price for the bike and accessories for me that was 8 months ago still nothing, also left messages with 2 other dealers to get back to me as they were not able to answer the phone still nothing. In my opinion of KTM they could not give a S**T about their customers
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Old 10-13-2009, 07:49 PM   #119
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As for the wrong bike maybe? I’m going on a 800GS and I love it and as for KTM I won't do business with them, there are only a couple of demos in the uk, I had to go 100 miles to ride a 690 enduro I was interested in rang up to arrange this, rang up the day before and when I got there they had lent it out to the police for a sting operation that morning by the person who I was dealing with, NOT HAPPY to say the least, they lent me something close and I asked for them to put together a price for the bike and accessories for me that was 8 months ago still nothing, also left messages with 2 other dealers to get back to me as they were not able to answer the phone still nothing. In my opinion of KTM they could not give a S**T about their customers
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Awwwwsum rant!

I read former BMW owner rant the other day who has same thing to say about BMW and thier dealers and has now "converted" to KTM....go figure?
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Old 10-14-2009, 05:38 AM   #120
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I was watching a music video for the Long way round song on youtube yesterday... almost EVERY post for the video is for how the series inspired the poster to get on whatever bike they had in the garage and go for a trip... either on little 90's with their buddies to the next county or even to plan an around the world adventure... After seeing the series people are motivated to get off their asses and DO someting on motorcycles. I don't see how this is a bad thing!
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