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Old 03-16-2012, 07:02 AM   #886
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Scrivens,
Very nice documentation on your new hard bags.
I'm leaning towards the LeatherLyke but hate to give up my top box.
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:20 AM   #887
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I'm leaning towards the LeatherLyke but hate to give up my top box.
The LeatherLykes look very nice in the pics and I'd like to see some in the flesh but the Hepcos were the only ones I could get. I know there are people over here using the LLs on the current Bonnie, but so far I haven't seen any and couldn't find an Australian distributor. (The H&Bs are common on Guzzis, so I'd seen a few of them before.) The shipping costs to import a full luggage set are too high to consider unfortunately. Givi is in the throes of making a set of racks for the 650/800 - it's on their website - but it doesn't appear to have hit the market yet. Bit of a shame as I already have a full set of Givi E41 luggage and several sizes of top box.

On my other bike(s) I tend to use a mid-sized Givi top box most of the time as it fits my work bag and is big enough to dump a helmet in. The 40L H&B top box I have on back-order is big enough to take a pair of helmets, but I don't know how big it is physically, so it might look a bit odd on the little 800. The 30L H&B Junior side cases, while they really suit the bike size-wise are too small for a helmet, but the wider 40L Juniors take a fullface OK. The H&B rack is a very solid, well braced piece of work and the bags appear to be decent quality.

Keep pushing Kawsaki about the 800 - that's the way the Versys made it into the US market.

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Old 03-16-2012, 07:44 AM   #888
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Thanks for the pics, Scrivens. Would you post another when you get the top bag?

As a relatively new owner of a 2000 W (4600 miles), I have been lurking this thread and have learned bunches. I've outsmarted myself a few times as well. I bought the LeatherLyke bags and like their looks but then decided to get the H&B top rack. I didn't think there would be any problem since the LeatherLykes come with an extra spacer which is used without a top rack. So I just assumed a H&B top rack would be compatible just by removing the spacer. Not the case at all and I can't run both without some major re-engineering (at least I can't see an easy solution). So I am trying to make up my mind between the two. I would love to see the bike with the 40L top bag. I know The Jerk is running one but I'm not sure the size. Anyway, a pic with the top bag installed would be great.

BTW, I also ran into a problem installing a SuperBrace. Seems to be about 1/4" too narrow. I could probably force it but don't think the forks would like it. Installation seems to be a no brainer for everyone else. Oh well...

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Old 03-16-2012, 08:12 AM   #889
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Joe,
Welcome to the thread.
Since the LeatherLykes are top opening wouldn't they hit the top box when you tried to open them?
I understand that the top box is not mounted but maybe a photo with the LLs installed and the top box just sitting in position would help me.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:38 AM   #890
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Would you post another when you get the top bag?
Will do. Hopefully the box will be here next week. The remaining two things to go on the bike are a replacement set of rear shocks - probably YSS as they are based here in Adelaide - and a big removable Givi screen for the winter. I was thinking of the A650 but it apparently not made anymore so perhaps the A602 or similar will do the job. And if I can mask off the rest of the engine, those barrel fins are getting some hi-temp black on them, just like a real bike...

The fork brace is a good idea; had one on my V-Strom and it made a big difference.


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Old 03-16-2012, 08:39 AM   #891
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I have one of these also. It's a great bike, and garners all kinds of looks and comments no matter where I take it. It's amazing how much attention this bike attracts. I have three other real nice motorcycles but if I'm out on this one I get asked all kinds of questions every time I get off of it.

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Old 03-16-2012, 09:17 AM   #892
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BTW, I also ran into a problem installing a SuperBrace. Seems to be about 1/4" too narrow. I could probably force it but don't think the forks would like it. Installation seems to be a no brainer for everyone else. Oh well...

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The Superbrace should be an exact fit. Sounds like they might have sent you the wrong one. I believe you're right about not wanting to force it.
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The Superbrace should be an exact fit. Sounds like they might have sent you the wrong one. I believe you're right about not wanting to force it.
I just decided to give it another try but it seems to be 1/8 to 3/16" too narrow -- hard to measure exactly. The part number is correct for the W. I just dropped a note to SuperBrace about it so we'll see what happens. Thanks for getting me going on this again ORexpat.

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Hmmm.

Any indication that the fork legs might have a problem? Leaky seals, or funny wear on the stanchions? Could a PO have messed up a front wheel installation with a wrong spacer?

Just wondering, 'cause mine fit like a glove. Unless SB messed up a CNC run and made the brace wrong! (I doubt that, though).

Anyway, good luck. I do think the brace improves handling, esp on bumpy corners.
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Old 03-16-2012, 01:40 PM   #895
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Since the LeatherLykes are top opening wouldn't they hit the top box when you tried to open them?
I understand that the top box is not mounted but maybe a photo with the LLs installed and the top box just sitting in position would help me.
You are probably right about that, Barnone. Since I don't have the top box yet, just the top rack, I'm not sure. But thinking about it, I'll bet they would hit. You've got to bare with me, I hadn't ridden for over 35 years until I got the W. My last bike was a Mach 3. I was reminiscing with a friend and mentioned that if I ever got another bike, it would probably be an early '60s Bonneville. I never actually owned one but drove one a lot in high school. Anyway, my friend told me to take a look at the W and it was love at first sight. A reliable Bonneville.

Botton line is, I think I'll have to make a decision to either go with the LL sides or the Hepco top and sell the other. The 40L top would probably be more practical but I'll wait until I see Scrivens' mounted.

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Hmmm.

Any indication that the fork legs might have a problem? Leaky seals, or funny wear on the stanchions? Could a PO have messed up a front wheel installation with a wrong spacer?

Just wondering, 'cause mine fit like a glove. Unless SB messed up a CNC run and made the brace wrong! (I doubt that, though).

Anyway, good luck. I do think the brace improves handling, esp on bumpy corners.
The bike looks brand new and I have the PO's records so I think all is well up front, at least no signs of anything amiss. It actually still has the original tires which will get replaced soon...

I just went out and took another close look and don't see a problem. I did put EBC HH pads on but the originals still had a lot of wear left.

Hoping SB will send me some dimensions and I can go from there. I'll let you know.

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Old 03-16-2012, 01:57 PM   #897
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You are probably right about that, Barnone. Since I don't have the top box yet, just the top rack, I'm not sure. But thinking about it, I'll bet they would hit. You've got to bare with me, I hadn't ridden for over 35 years until I got the W. My last bike was a Mach 3. I was reminiscing with a friend and mentioned that if I ever got another bike, it would probably be an early '60s Bonneville. I never actually owned one but drove one a lot in high school. Anyway, my friend told me to take a look at the W and it was love at first sight. A reliable Bonneville.

Botton line is, I think I'll have to make a decision to either go with the LL sides or the Hepco top and sell the other. The 40L top would probably be more practical but I'll wait until I see Scrivens' mounted.

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Joe,
I might be wrong since I sent an email to LL and he said the covers would not hit the top box so I am going to order the LLs in a few minutes.
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I have one of these also. It's a great bike, and garners all kinds of looks and comments no matter where I take it. It's amazing how much attention this bike attracts. I have three other real nice motorcycles but if I'm out on this one I get asked all kinds of questions every time I get off of it.
dominatr37,
Same thing happens to me all the time. Guys rolling down their windows and asking what year, giving thumbs up,etc.
I put big Kawasaki decals on the tank (tank badges removes by PO) so people would quit asking what year Triumph/BSA. A guy can in the fast food joint and asked who put Kawasaki decals on that old Triumph.
I stopped for lunch today at a hole in wall place and a Harley guy asked what year and if the bevel drive tube had push rods in it.
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Old 03-20-2012, 11:46 PM   #899
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As per the requests, Hepco & Becker Junior 40L top box pics:





I couldn't get a decent one from the rear as the perspective is wrong and it makes the case look huge. It is actually a nice compact size but will fit a full face helmet or a laptop bag OK. The Junior 45L is slightly wider and will take a pair of helmets. The top box is very well made - the interior, seals and straps are the same as in the side cases - and all the cases have very good locks compared to Givi gear.

I have finally got around to blacking the barrels with 600C heat-proof paint like the 650 (didn't like the all alloy look at all) and fitted a set of YSS shocks which are far better than the standards. YSS Suspension Although it is in Adelaide, YSS ships worldwide. When I was up at YSS, Walter was setting up progressive springs and cartridge emulators for the W650/W800 front for a customer, so they should be available 'off the shelf' soon. (My front is OK for me with a couple of 1/8" spacers in each leg to add just a touch of preload to the single rate springs. The new rear shocks are very smooth over broken ground; quite a remarkable difference.) Only thing left to get is a Givi screen for the winter, either the A602 or the A660.

The motor is loosening up very nicely now, brakes are bedding in and the gearbox has finally stopped slipping out of 5th just after the upchange. Should hit the 5000km mark next week.
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:31 AM   #900
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Scrivens,
She is looking good with plenty of carrying capacity. I am trying to do the same with the LeatherLyke bags which I ordered the other day.
I added a grease fitting to the swing arm and filled it with grease which seems to help the rear suspension. Might be a placebo but my W is a 2001 and was lacking in grease in the swing arm bearings.
So just a few 1/8" thick large washers (2?) helped the front end dive?
Thanks for the photos. I'll post mine when the LLs arrive.
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