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Old 08-10-2012, 06:32 PM   #1156
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My 2001 seems to black up the spark plugs. Guess it is running rich?

In case you don't know there is a lot of W650 info at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/W650riders/ especially in the files and database section.
Thanks for the info, I just registered over there as well.

Wondering if anyone can help me wrap my head around how the carbs work. Think I've got some of the basics down and I'll post some of the resources I used if anyone wants a gander. Really, my big question right now is why are there the 2 vacuum ports on the carbs (1 on each carb)?

Here's my reading list today:
http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/carbs101.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyspA...eature=related
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Old 08-11-2012, 11:29 AM   #1157
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I think mainly so you can fit vacuum gauges and balance them. I have found doing that takes out a fair bit of vibration.
The carbs are quite common, not very accurate, and difficult to change if you try for better performanc or economy.
They suit the bike style I guess, no point trying to make it a race bike, that it will never be.
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Old 08-11-2012, 10:25 PM   #1158
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Here's the one I just pickled up for my wife last weekend. It was a fly and ride from Southern Oregon to Oakland. I took a few days to get home, and went about 600 miles, rather than the 400 mile coast route.

Fun bike, and quite the looker. It seems that every guy over fifty had a '68 Bonneville, just like the one I was on.
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Old 08-11-2012, 10:46 PM   #1159
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I'm over 50 and while I once had a Tiger I never had a Bonneville. Maybe all these replies of Bonneville's in the days of yore are like the 4,000,000 million people who said they were at Woodstock. Most probably had a Honda 350, which I thought was the bomb in '68.
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Old 08-12-2012, 06:34 AM   #1160
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I put the large Kawasaki decals on my W650 so guys wouldn't ask about my restored Triumph but that does not stop them.

They still ask and one guy said "Who put that Kawasaki decal on that old Triumph?".
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Old 08-12-2012, 12:27 PM   #1161
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Here's the one I just pickled up for my wife last weekend. It was a fly and ride from Southern Oregon to Oakland. I took a few days to get home, and went about 600 miles, rather than the 400 mile coast route.

Fun bike, and quite the looker. It seems that every guy over fifty had a '68 Bonneville, just like the one I was on.
Nice bike, good luck with it!

And the faster green one too.
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Old 08-12-2012, 12:33 PM   #1162
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Here's a question for the owners of the 2000 models.

We know Kawasaki made some changes in the second year. If you've ridden a 2001 model, were the changes/improvements noticeable in everyday riding?

If so, in what way(s)?

Just curious in case I ever need to get another one.
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:23 PM   #1163
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I've had both the 2000 and 2001 W650 and IMHO I would buy either one if I needed another W650. I happen to like the color of the 2001 better but no big deal.

I would be hard pressed to tell the difference (while riding) between the two except for the better ribbed seat on the 2001 not that it is so great. That can be fixed on the 2000 if needed.

If I remember right the 2001 has a little larger front axle, about half a degree more rake, and thinner tank pads.
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Old 08-12-2012, 06:18 PM   #1164
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Nice bike, good luck with it!

And the faster green one too.
Fast is not how I'd describe it. I wasn't keeping up with Wee Stroms unless the road was *just right*. Bumps, high speed or tight corners involved me watching bikes in front of me get a lot smaller.

Tons of fun, just not the right bike for the conditions I was in.
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Old 08-12-2012, 06:42 PM   #1165
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A couple of suspension upgrades help. Never be a Gixxer, but I never wanted one of those anyway,
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:33 AM   #1166
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I've had both the 2000 and 2001 W650 and IMHO I would buy either one if I needed another W650. I happen to like the color of the 2001 better but no big deal.

I would be hard pressed to tell the difference (while riding) between the two except for the better ribbed seat on the 2001 not that it is so great. That can be fixed on the 2000 if needed.

If I remember right the 2001 has a little larger front axle, about half a degree more rake, and thinner tank pads.

I think there were a couple more, been a while since I last saw the review or the brochure with the differences, but one was that they also changed the angle of the gauges for easier viewing.

Good to know, thanks.
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:38 AM   #1167
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Fast is not how I'd describe it. I wasn't keeping up with Wee Stroms unless the road was *just right*. Bumps, high speed or tight corners involved me watching bikes in front of me get a lot smaller.

Tons of fun, just not the right bike for the conditions I was in.
Fast is relative. Had the other bikes been, say, Honda CT90's, you'd have been the speed demon.

Unless you were off road, of course.
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:53 AM   #1168
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I think there were a couple more, been a while since I last saw the review or the brochure with the differences, but one was that they also changed the angle of the gauges for easier viewing.

Good to know, thanks.
Oh yeah, I forgot about the change in the gauges mount.

Now if the W800 ever enters the picture in the USA, that is a horse of a different color.
Not that the W800 is that much superior to the W650 but it would be new and finding a nice W650 is getting harder to do.
Took me a long time to find a good low mileage unmodified W650 last year.
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:16 AM   #1169
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A couple of suspension upgrades help. Never be a Gixxer, but I never wanted one of those anyway,
What are people doing for suspension upgrades?
And where do I find a bolt-on 6th gear?
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:40 PM   #1170
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Well, you're out of luck on the aux 6th, but you could put on a one-tooth larger countershaft sprocket and gain 300-400 rpm in 5th. Easier cruising, a touch less acceleration.

I put Race Tech Emulators and springs in the front, and Hagons on the rear. If I did it again, I'd probably put IKON's on the back, or maybe spring for top of the line rear shocks. Race Tech, Olins, etc. Frightfully expensive but really good shocks. (Put Olin's on the GS. Huge difference).

Also have a Superbrace on the front forks. I think they help some, but the fork upgrades should be higher priority. I also raised the front forks in the triple trees about half an inch. That didn't cost anything!

Good rubber is a must too. If your bike has original tires on it, they'll be hard as a rock, with an equal lack of traction. Not to mention the dry rot!! Quite a variety of opinions on tires (like rear ends, everybody's got one . . . ). I have Metzler Lasertechs and think they're OK, but nothing special. Next time think I'll go for the Bridgestone BT-45s.
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