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Old 02-21-2008, 09:29 AM   #1651
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They liked to spit broken hy-vo cam chains through thier cylinder blocks with alarming regularity.

Don't know if they ever got that sorted with a better tensioner design or better quality hy-vo chain?
been there done that with the old h*nda i see
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Old 02-21-2008, 10:25 AM   #1652
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:43 PM   #1653
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that's a beauty

Who did the re-paint?

A very talented local guy who does a lot of airbrush work on hotrods, drag-racing cars and the like, as well as specialised signwriting using airbrushes. He also does the filligree detail pinstriping by hand, on trucks.

He was excellent to work with, 'cos he had the patience to look at countless period photos and listen to me dribble on about what I wanted to achieve.

When it's parked in the shade, it just looks black and silver. In sunlight though, the metallic purple brings it alive.
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:53 PM   #1654
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A very talented local guy who does a lot of airbrush work on hotrods, drag-racing cars and the like, as well as specialised signwriting using airbrushes. He also does the filligree detail pinstriping by hand, on trucks.

He was excellent to work with, 'cos he had the patience to look at countless period photos and listen to me dribble on about what I wanted to achieve.

When it's parked in the shade, it just looks black and silver. In sunlight though, the metallic purple brings it alive.
Mine is not near as sweet as your's but I was thinking that might be the solution to my paint. Mine has almost a dark green tint, factory 74 model, but looks black in the shade.

I haven't seen any silver smokes repaints that really look original, IMO. Contrasting with the red pinstripes gives it away with a lot of class, something I could live with since duplicanting the factory job is unlikely.
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Old 02-21-2008, 02:01 PM   #1655
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We did a total resto on this '74 DT250A. Got it inspected yesterday...
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Old 02-21-2008, 03:53 PM   #1656
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We did a total resto on this '74 DT250A. Got it inspected yesterday...
That is so cool! An old GF had one, I used it to get my Nevada MC endorsement on it, around 1980 or so.
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Old 02-21-2008, 04:20 PM   #1657
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Mine is not near as sweet as your's but I was thinking that might be the solution to my paint. Mine has almost a dark green tint, factory 74 model, but looks black in the shade.

I haven't seen any silver smokes repaints that really look original, IMO. Contrasting with the red pinstripes gives it away with a lot of class, something I could live with since duplicanting the factory job is unlikely.
From a resale/investment/collector point of view, I've devalued it. However, since my wife has forbidden me from ever selling it, and our son and daughter are already arguing about who's going to inherit the thing, who cares! I just wanted it painted in the same style as the original, with a subtle tweak or 2.

Here it is from another angle.
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Old 02-21-2008, 04:29 PM   #1658
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We did a total resto on this '74 DT250A. Got it inspected yesterday...
...my first bike...
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Old 02-21-2008, 08:10 PM   #1659
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Mine is not near as sweet as your's but I was thinking that might be the solution to my paint. Mine has almost a dark green tint, factory 74 model, but looks black in the shade.

I haven't seen any silver smokes repaints that really look original, IMO. Contrasting with the red pinstripes gives it away with a lot of class, something I could live with since duplicanting the factory job is unlikely.
I bought a '74 brand new in late '73 when they came out. I also had a '75 90S along the way since then. The '74 is my all time favorite motorcycle, bar none. I can still see the bike going down the road with it's new owner when I sold it in the late '70s. I knew instantly I'd done something really dumb and 30+ years has not changed that. I consider the 90S sort of a sacred object in the motorcycle world, a bike that should be properly preserved and cared for but still ridden. But then I'm a little nuts.

My 2 cents worth: Some background you might want to consider before you move too far from stock appearance or parts: BMW produced only about 1,000 of the 1974 version R90/S, the lowest year of production. Less than 500 came to the USA. So many have been trashed in various ways that true original ones are getting even less common. When I see them on eBay and other places nearly everyone has incorrect pieces or paint added to it. I kept my 90S spotless and waxed it many times. There is a greenish brown tinge to the paint under some lighting conditions, it wasn't truly a black finish. Each bike was painted by one painter and no two came off the assembly line exactly alike. This allows a bit of latitude in restoration.

Ok, I'm done. Thanks for listening to an old fahrt babble about a bike he still loves.

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Old 02-22-2008, 05:12 AM   #1660
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From a resale/investment/collector point of view, I've devalued it. However, since my wife has forbidden me from ever selling it, and our son and daughter are already arguing about who's going to inherit the thing, who cares! I just wanted it painted in the same style as the original, with a subtle tweak or 2.

Here it is from another angle.
Your's is a 76 model but you have a kickstarter ??? I thought only the 74's had the kickstarter??

Maybe Vintagemxr can clarify?

I agree with you, besides a collector who cares, sorry mxr.

Mine wasn't original when I found it in 82, it was set up for touring with a Daytona, Wixom bags and trunk and it had a /6 seat and tank. The side covers, fenders and everything else were original and I later found a 74 smoke tank and matching seat and a solid black "S" faring.

Since then some engine and suspension mods took place, I also added Lesters. Dispite it's vintage it's the smoothest BMW I've ever been on.

I probably could get it back close to original looking but either way it's gonna to be a keeper. Paint would help it a lot.

I have it stored in a barn for now and once a year I dig it out to remind me what old school is really about.

My scanners down but I'll try and get some shots posted.
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Old 02-22-2008, 05:21 AM   #1661
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I bought a '74 brand new in late '73 when they came out. I also had a '75 90S along the way since then. The '74 is my all time favorite motorcycle, bar none. I can still see the bike going down the road with it's new owner when I sold it in the late '70s. I knew instantly I'd done something really dumb and 30+ years has not changed that. I consider the 90S sort of a sacred object in the motorcycle world, a bike that should be properly preserved and cared for but still ridden. But then I'm a little nuts.

My 2 cents worth: Some background you might want to consider before you move too far from stock appearance or parts: BMW produced only about 1,000 of the 1974 version R90/S, the lowest year of production. Less than 500 came to the USA. So many have been trashed in various ways that true original ones are getting even less common. When I see them on eBay and other places nearly everyone has incorrect pieces or paint added to it. I kept my 90S spotless and waxed it many times. There is a greenish brown tinge to the paint under some lighting conditions, it wasn't truly a black finish. Each bike was painted by one painter and no two came off the assembly line exactly alike. This allows a bit of latitude in restoration.

Ok, I'm done. Thanks for listening to an old fahrt babble about a bike he still loves.

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if we all could have kept the bikes we owned, we wouldn't have any regrets and no garage space either.
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Old 02-22-2008, 06:53 AM   #1662
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I do not know how to express my gratitud to all of you wth all those beatufull bikes

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Old 02-22-2008, 11:35 AM   #1663
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Okay, here's a pic of a pic of my old '72 Eldorado in the middle of a cross Canada trip in the spring of '81. I was moving back to Calgary on it at the time.

No one uses wine skins for water bottles anymore...
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Old 02-22-2008, 12:30 PM   #1664
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Your's is a 76 model but you have a kickstarter ??? I thought only the 74's had the kickstarter??
You could get it as an option up till about 1992
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Old 02-22-2008, 01:14 PM   #1665
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Your's is a 76 model but you have a kickstarter ??? I thought only the 74's had the kickstarter??

Maybe Vintagemxr can clarify?

I agree with you, besides a collector who cares, sorry mxr.

Mine wasn't original when I found it in 82, it was set up for touring with a Daytona, Wixom bags and trunk and it had a /6 seat and tank. The side covers, fenders and everything else were original and I later found a 74 smoke tank and matching seat and a solid black "S" faring.

Since then some engine and suspension mods took place, I also added Lesters. Dispite it's vintage it's the smoothest BMW I've ever been on.

I probably could get it back close to original looking but either way it's gonna to be a keeper. Paint would help it a lot.

I have it stored in a barn for now and once a year I dig it out to remind me what old school is really about.

My scanners down but I'll try and get some shots posted.
richard, no problem on the restoration perspective, it's your bike and you can do what you please with it which is a good chunk of what motorcycling is about. Frankly, I'd rather see a beater 90S being ridden like God and German engineers intended it to be than being a garage queen that never sees the open road again. As someone once said: "If you don't ride it the next owner will."

As for the kickstarter, it was standard on the 1974 model and an option on the 1975 model. Don't know about the '76. I understand that it was just some different parts on the back of the motor to add the kicker. I tried to kickstart my '74 once when the battery went dead and I can tell you that it was a real pain. My old R69/US was a piece of cake to kick but the S with the bigger pistons, higher compression, and lousy kickstarter location made it an "only if you have to" operation.

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