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Old 03-31-2010, 11:39 PM   #451
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Those S280 shelters are a bit smaller than the M109 box like the one on my truck. The difference is that the S280 shelters fit inside the stock bed, while the M109 box replaces the bed. Few inches here and a few inches there, but it adds up to a noticeably smaller space. I think they're also a little shorter, and my M109 box is barely 6'6". Most of the shelters don't have any windows while the M109 boxes have seven sliding/tip-out high-altitude dual-pane tempered glass windows (with screens). They're both well-insulated. The M109 box is a steel shell within a steel shell, with 2" of insulation in all the walls and ceiling. Not sure about the shelters, but would guess it's similar. Neither option is too expensive - you can find good clean M109 boxes and S280-type shelters for under $1000 here in The States. I really like the idea of being able to slide a shelter in/out of the back of a regular deuce bed, but in the end, I decided that the M109 was a better platform (for me). If I was building a weekend camper, I would have kept my 10ft Alaskan Camper and thrown that in the back of a deuce. M109 boxes weigh about 4000lbs, and I'm pretty sure the S280-type shelters are aluminum, but I would guess they still weigh a fair bit more than 2000lbs.
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Old 04-01-2010, 12:42 AM   #452
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I got kind of excited because another idea I am tossing around is getting a flatbed and building a box/buying a flatbed camper/or one of these. But it seems like they are really heavy.
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Old 04-01-2010, 01:30 AM   #453
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Yeah, I'd do something else unless there's a reason why you need something so heavy-duty. Honestly, building the box is the easiest part of the whole project. Looking back on it now, I wish I had gone that route.
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Old 04-01-2010, 01:31 AM   #454
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I got kind of excited because another idea I am tossing around is getting a flatbed and building a box/buying a flatbed camper/or one of these. But it seems like they are really heavy.
Flat beds can be kind of hard to find in 4X4.

But if you do, another option might be to take a regular travel trailer of the right size and mount it on your flat bed. it would save a lot of work.

They also make travel trailers for colder climates with much better insulation.
And the area around riverside is Full of RV dealers looking to sell off trailers originally bought up north that were used as trade-in's.
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Old 04-01-2010, 01:33 AM   #455
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...another option might be to take a regular travel trailer of the right size and mount it on your flat bed. it would save a lot of work.
That's a great idea. I've seen some really nice rigs built that way, and I've seen some down-and-dirty versions too...
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Old 04-01-2010, 02:10 AM   #456
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You'd have to pull it off it's trailer, right?
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Old 04-01-2010, 02:44 AM   #457
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You'd have to pull it off it's trailer, right?
Not really.
the best way, imo, would be to just take the Axles & springs off. leave the trailer frame to keep it all strong and togeather. Then you would just need to make sure you could connect to or access all the drains and stuff under the trailer once it is on the truck, and bolt the frame rails to the bed.

Most travel trailers have I beam frames, and if your flat bed has a welded steel bed, you could just drill holes and use 12 hard bolts. something in the 5/8" shank range. I would consult an engineer about the number and size after you know how much the trailer weights.

If you found a "feather lite" or other lite model with an aluminum frame, you could save a couple hundred pounds too.

The problems with taking the frame out could be Numerous. like,
Where to put the black and grey tanks.
structural integrity, before, during and after the transfer to the truck.
Just getting the frame Off.

Not worth the weight savings.
Plus you could have the trailer "hang-off" the back of the truck a bit if you leave the frame on. easier to make room for the bike "spot" between the cab and front of the Box.

But using a pre-built trailer may save a Ton of time and money.
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Looks like a few folks with 4x4 Mitsubishi Fuso's are taking the approach of putting an existing camper onto a truck chassis. Some of these are pickup campers; some are trailers without their wheels.

These are from http://www.expeditionportal.com/foru...ead.php?t=9299 incidentally:











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Old 04-01-2010, 11:09 AM   #460
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PirateJohn, you beat me to it with that link.

I really like the fourth pic, the truck with the utility body and cabover/5th wheel on it. Sweet.
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PirateJohn, you beat me to it with that link.

I really like the fourth pic, the truck with the utility body and cabover/5th wheel on it. Sweet.
That's my favorite too, Amigo. Plenty of space for tools and storage.
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Old 04-01-2010, 10:32 PM   #463
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That's my favorite too, Amigo. Plenty of space for tools and storage.
If only there was a two foot gap between the cab and the camper to park a bike. Sure, you'd need a long ramp to ride "up and over" to park it there, but you'd have plenty of room to store the ramp with all that storage.
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Old 04-01-2010, 10:55 PM   #464
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Bummer the Fuso FG only comes in diesel since I've already decided against it. Also, they are a bit more spendy. Looking at the prospect of going with a 4x4 flatbed truck and possibly putting a featherlite trailer on it.
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Old 04-01-2010, 11:08 PM   #465
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Yeti, you know what I think would be cool for you? A Ural. Seriously. Do a big long trip on a hack before you retire to the RV. That would be great.

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