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Old 01-12-2012, 03:45 PM   #991
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I don't think they still make my model:

http://www.seawardyachts.com/sea23.html
How much cabin height did/do you have?
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:26 PM   #992
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I think I have become convinced that I am going to build a large yurt home for myself. I intend to incorporate what I know about 'sustainable energy' and stuff (translation: Environment? Phht, I just don't want to pay utility bills anymore, dude) and make the most out of it. Plus, if I think I can move it relatively easily if I can come up with a cheap method for building a portable deck base.
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:55 PM   #993
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I'd be really interested in watching that come together. ^^^
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:56 PM   #994
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I think I have become convinced that I am going to build a large yurt home for myself. I intend to incorporate what I know about 'sustainable energy' and stuff (translation: Environment? Phht, I just don't want to pay utility bills anymore, dude) and make the most out of it. Plus, if I think I can move it relatively easily if I can come up with a cheap method for building a portable deck base.
or, you could start with something like this:
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/rvs/2797419756.html
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:34 AM   #995
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or, you could start with something like this:
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/rvs/2797419756.html


Ditto.

The yurt just seems like a big tent to me. Seems like a lot of effort & expense for very little return. If you want something temporary, portable, and cheap I'd think an old RV or school bus would be cheap & simple. Moving them would be a breeze, and when you're done with them they'd have at least some monetary value. You would also have a lot more options on places to park an RV than places you could move a yurt to. An RV is also more secure and can be insured. You can break into a yurt with almost anything and one would burn to ashes quicker than you could get out of the door.

Sorry to sound so negative, but just some things to consider.

Btw, If you want a building that's cheap, but not portable I'd look into "pole barns". National Barn offers them cheap. For less than $10,000 they'll build a 30x50 on your land. They are uninsulated and you pour the concrete floor after it's built. Ofthey get larger course they'll build any size you want, and they are cheaper per sq ft as they get larger.

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Old 01-15-2012, 03:58 PM   #996
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I spent a week back country skiing out of a yurt. Kinda neat to stay in one but propane heat sucks (doesn't dry out wet gear very well).
And if it ever caught on fire... woof.
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:49 PM   #997
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A yurt is not for me. . . . So gonna pass on that one. But after reading most of this thread maybe a boat is. I'm sure it's already been posted many times, but what size sailboat can one person manage? I always ride bikes alone but water is something else . If I was going to take the plunge and buy a boat, what size should I get? What could I manage own my own? I don't know shit about sailing !
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Old 01-17-2012, 07:11 PM   #998
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A yurt is not for me. . . . So gonna pass on that one. But after reading most of this thread maybe a boat is. I'm sure it's already been posted many times, but what size sailboat can one person manage? I always ride bikes alone but water is something else . If I was going to take the plunge and buy a boat, what size should I get? What could I manage own my own? I don't know shit about sailing !
They actually get easier when they get bigger and you add $$. 100'ers are all push button controlled

Seriously after 36-40' it can be tricky to single hand. It all depends how it is setup.
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Old 01-17-2012, 07:26 PM   #999
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If I was going to take the plunge and buy a boat, what size should I get? What could I manage own my own? I don't know shit about sailing !
Might be best to work on fixing you lack of sailing skills first before sinking big money into a big boat.

With skill and suitable systems, as the other person says, they get easier up to somewhere around 30 to 40 feet.
But start by learning in a dinghy; you'll learn valuable skills in a boat that throws you in the water when you make mistakes.
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Old 01-17-2012, 08:28 PM   #1000
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They actually get easier when they get bigger and you add $$. 100'ers are all push button controlled

Seriously after 36-40' it can be tricky to single hand. It all depends how it is setup.


I do understand the size thing. Sounds alot like aircraft. Thanks for your advice.
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Might be best to work on fixing you lack of sailing skills first before sinking big money into a big boat.

With skill and suitable systems, as the other person says, they get easier up to somewhere around 30 to 40 feet.
But start by learning in a dinghy; you'll learn valuable skills in a boat that throws you in the water when you make mistakes.

Never done the dingy thing but I have done some hobie-cat sailing as a kid. That was like 30 years ago. So a refresh is in order. Not wanting to spend BIG money on a boat because honestly I can't afford it. I was just thinking if I was to go off the deep end . . . .what should I look for ?
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Old 01-17-2012, 09:38 PM   #1002
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I do understand the size thing. Sounds a lot like aircraft. Thanks for your advice.
Ahhhh....

There's a key difference.

When you make mistakes under a hang glider, it throws you in the water (or onto the beach) from a much greater height!

For example, (and this is speaking from experience), hang gliding without stereopsis tends to include hard landings.
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Old 01-19-2012, 04:46 AM   #1003
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(DAMHIK, ... I once lived in a 15' open rowboat for over 3 months straight )


I bet you weren't "straight" for the entire time!

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Old 01-19-2012, 09:29 AM   #1004
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extended cruising rule of thumb for boats, you need 7500# displacement for each person. That accounts for personal gear / space / boat parts stowage / tankage / more complex mechanical infrastructure / etc.

one thing to remember, a typical full keel sailboat will displace about 10,000#, a 36' full keel sailboat will displace about 16,000#. which means way more bottom paint, bigger sails, bigger diesel, etc. all of which means more cost to you. also, getting insurance to cross certain waters can be rather expensive to obtain, which can be a deal killer if you have a loan on the vessel and have to carry insurance for the bank's protection.

and sure, a small boat can be fun / quaint / cozy on a sunny nice weekend when you're having fun, but after days of rain, or when tempers flare a boat gets mighty small, mighty darned quick and there's no where for anyone to go to "escape".
Not necessarily true..............

http://www.bluemoment.com/dove.html

he was my hero back when I waz a teenager.


just goes to show, that you can do pretty good in a small displacement boat, but it might take alittle more work.
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Old 01-19-2012, 09:57 AM   #1005
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Not necessarily true..............

http://www.bluemoment.com/dove.html

he was my hero back when I waz a teenager.


just goes to show, that you can do pretty good in a small displacement boat, but it might take alittle more work.
I was going to make a post about his book when I saw the boat topic come up. Its one of the best books I've ever read and will make the biggest landlubber have dreams of sailing the oceans.

Used to live in RI and a friend had a small weekender sailboat, got divorced, lived on his boat, turned it into a career inspecting delivering and teaching. He wound up with 5 boats which after he taught you would rent out and currently living on a 44. You could learn about boats and make it a career living in the tropics..
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