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Old 11-26-2009, 07:28 PM   #1
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SYM Transformer Minibike

It looks like SYM has a new minibike coming in their lineup. It appears to be an off road bike with a cool front suspension, no front brake and mono rear shock The seat looks a little spartan(wedgie maker). Looks like fun!!
http://carterbro.com/minibike.html
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Old 11-27-2009, 10:08 AM   #2
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Very interesting. That fork is very unusual. You'd think they might have saved money using already available telescopic tubes.

Too bad they couldn't make it street legal. Seems like it would mostly just need a front brake and turn signals.
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Old 11-27-2009, 10:53 AM   #3
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Yeah, I think a street legal version would be fun. neat looking little critter.
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Old 11-27-2009, 11:27 AM   #4
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Old 11-27-2009, 02:09 PM   #5
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Old 11-27-2009, 04:06 PM   #6
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Im going to keep my eye on this one for sure. It looks like it could be a Ruckus killer in the mod dept(very easy access to the motor). Maybe a dual sport kit installed to make it street legal. A call to Carter Bros might reveal the price. I called before the Symba was released and they gave my an accurate ballpark price for it over the phone.
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Old 11-27-2009, 04:07 PM   #7
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yeh, it's kinda like leading link suspension... what the hell. very cool looking though.... reminds me of the madass.
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Old 11-27-2009, 05:34 PM   #8
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If one's objective is NOT a motocross trainer, the China Ruckus 50cc and 150cc clones are probably a lot better value for the money . . street legal, rear carrier rack, and a front disc brake.



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Old 12-05-2009, 02:33 PM   #9
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I'm sorry but this is simply fugly. and it's a CVT engined bike.

It looks like they let someone with a poor nostalgic recall of the Steens/Hodaka dirt bikes try to make a Madass/Steens/Ruckus wannabe. They dropped the ball on this, when it could have been a better riff design of the Symba drivetrain/frame.

No front brake!? , I can't believe someone thinks going 1960 retro is going to be safe as a Totegoat throwback. Why not go the full Monty and just put on a tire friction tread plate welded to the brake pedal?
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Old 12-06-2009, 06:49 AM   #10
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Im going to keep my eye on this one for sure. It looks like it could be a Ruckus killer in the mod dept(very easy access to the motor). Maybe a dual sport kit installed to make it street legal. A call to Carter Bros might reveal the price. I called before the Symba was released and they gave my an accurate ballpark price for it over the phone.
I'm not sure about the Ruckus being the competition. This thing occupies a weird in-between status with the Sikk Trail on one side and the typical Pep Boys/Northern Tool Mini-bike on the other with some styling cues from the Tomos Arrow moped thrown in somewhere.

Anybody else notice that it says "Carter" on the side instead of "SYM"? Trying to gain a bigger foothold in the market with a less artificial sounding name?



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Old 12-06-2009, 07:32 AM   #11
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It kinda reminds me of the old Cub EZ-90 in terms of it being an automatic. I see it as something that one parent or the less-involved kids could putter around on while the rest of the family tears it up on the more capable dirt bikes...a way to get the whole family out together when part of the family is content to just putter around in the mild stuff.
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Old 12-06-2009, 09:06 AM   #12
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I like the looks of that "Classic 150" motorcycle on their website. Is all the Carter stuff built by Sym?
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Old 12-06-2009, 01:14 PM   #13
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I thought the engine looked familiar, it's a SYM Mio drivetrain, with the 4 valve head. Sounds like it's got the stock Mio speed restrictions on it also.

This looks like it's part of Carter's bid to have more "Made in the USA" stickers on their bikes, (should say partly made..), Carter's intended market is ATV and Dune Buggy crowd, this minibike is probably inteneded for a campground cruiser.
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Old 12-06-2009, 08:35 PM   #14
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. Is all the Carter stuff built by Sym?
No, the Carter Brothers stuff is definitely NOT being built by SYM. SYM has nothing to do with the Carter branded acceessories and bikes. The only exception is a couple of their larger go-carts have actual SYM engines.
The engine on the Carter bike looks like a cheap-o Chinese engine.
In my opinion, Carter is just trying to cash in using SYM's name. It's definitely hurting SYM in the long run.
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:39 PM   #15
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If one's objective is NOT a motocross trainer, the China Ruckus 50cc and 150cc clones are probably a lot better value for the money . . street legal, rear carrier rack, and a front disc brake.



Tortoise2,
Any experience with the 150cc version?
http://www.scooterdepot.us/150cc-4-S...unk-p-672.html
Price seems good.
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