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Old 12-10-2009, 06:30 AM   #106
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this looks like an amazing suit. Pretty much what may end my buying/selling obsession, but, unlike all the cheerleaders so far, I'd like to see what reality brings in a year or 3.

Remember, the much hyped Rev'it Infinity turned out to be beta at best. lets see what the real world brings, then I might be selling everything I own for this jacket!

The D30 armor seems great, but, I'd like to know if it gets rock hard when cold like so much other new armor out now. I'd be interested in seeing how it compares to the likes of T-pro, Sas-Tec and NP. The latter two are not acceptable to me thanks to how hard they get in the cold. Others don't see that as a problem, but, I don't want to land on it. T-Pro stays soft, as does the Quad armor in my Motoport pants.
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Old 12-10-2009, 06:47 AM   #107
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The D30 armor seems great, but, I'd like to know if it gets rock hard when cold like so much other new armor out now. I'd be interested in seeing how it compares to the likes of T-pro, Sas-Tec and NP. The latter two are not acceptable to me thanks to how hard they get in the cold. Others don't see that as a problem, but, I don't want to land on it. T-Pro stays soft, as does the Quad armor in my Motoport pants.
I have a sneaking suspicion that the 3DO armour and the BMW NP armour are the same thing.

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Old 12-10-2009, 06:53 AM   #108
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I have a sneaking suspicion that the 3DO armour and the BMW NP armour are the same thing.

Same thing, but, much less coverage Anyway, from what I've seen, they appear to be quite different



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Old 12-10-2009, 07:23 AM   #109
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Same thing, but, much less coverage Anyway, from what I've seen, they appear to be quite different



Now that is cool!! I guess I need to do some Youtube surfing!

I think it was asked -if the Harness is removeable and I do not think so, at least that I could tell.

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Old 12-10-2009, 07:38 AM   #110
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this one is my fav

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VDeJ...layer_embedded
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Old 12-10-2009, 07:44 AM   #111
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Same thing, but, much less coverage Anyway, from what I've seen, they appear to be quite different

"Same thing", but "quite different".







All kidding aside. What do you mean?

My speculation, (and that's all it is is speculation) is that they're the same material and BMW's "exclusivity" agreement expired.
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:10 AM   #112
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My name is Dave Lomax, together with Chris Colling I own Adventure-Spec Ltd.

If you look closely on the jacket front lower left pocket (and on the pant) you will see our logo, you will also see our name mentioned in the promotional material presented at the start of the thread.

The reason for this is that together with Klim and WLGore Chris and I are responsible for collaborating on the design of the suit.

This suit wasnt just designed on paper, what you see in these photographs is the third version of the suit after testing by multiple riders (including us) over approx 40-50k MILES of on and off road riding in all weather conditions.

This suit was NOT designed as a road suit with pretty extra bits and sandy coloured patches. Every single part of the suit has a purpose and was designed with nothing in mind other than a total riding focus.

This suit wasnt designed to a price. It was designed to do a job, and when we finished we worked out how much we needed to sell it for to make a standard profit. I can honestly say that I doubt there has EVER been a piece of clothing available to bikers that has more R&D and design focus than this. It is almost identical to our initial brief. No bean counters or 'design experts' have cut corners or added/removed pointless tat.

I can understand that there is speculation regarding many parts of the suit, particularly if you have never actually seen or worn one, but perhaps we can help some of the debate here.

Ask away...we can hopefully explain some of the features we designed in to the garments and reasons behind them.

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Old 12-10-2009, 08:15 AM   #113
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My name is Dave Lomax, together with Chris Colling I own Adventure-Spec Ltd.

If you look closely on the jacket front lower left pocket (and on the pant) you will see our logo, you will also see our name mentioned in the promotional material presented at the start of the thread.

The reason for this is that Chris and I are responsible for all of the design concepts and ideas contained within the new Klim suit. We wrote the design spec for the garment and acted as consulatants throughout the design process.

This suit wasnt just designed on paper, what you see in these photographs is the third version of the suit after testing by multiple riders (including us) over approx 40-50k MILES of on and off road riding in all weather conditions.

This suit was NOT designed as a road suit with pretty extra bits and sandy coloured patches. Every single part of the suit has a purpose and was designed with nothing in mind other than a total riding focus.

This suit wasnt designed to a price. It was designed to do a job, and when we finished we worked out how much we needed to sell it for to make a standard profit. I can honestly say that I doubt there has EVER been a piece of clothing available to bikers that has more R&D and design focus than this. It is almost identical to our initial brief. No bean counters or 'design experts' have cut corners or added/removed pointless tat thanks to Klim and GoreTex believing in our design.

I can understand that there is speculation regarding many parts of the suit, particularly if you have never actually seen or worn one, but perhaps we can help some of the debate here.

Ask away...we can hopefully explain some of the features we designed in to the garments and reasons behind them.

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Did you really ask yourselves, "How can Xeraux fuck this thing up?"





Obviously, I'm just kidding.

Thanks for weighing in on this.

Any plans to market it in the U.S.?

Are you comfortable sharing some kind of time frame if you are?
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:21 AM   #114
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Originally Posted by davidlomax
My name is Dave Lomax, together with Chris Colling I own Adventure-Spec Ltd.

If you look closely on the jacket front lower left pocket (and on the pant) you will see our logo, you will also see our name mentioned in the promotional material presented at the start of the thread.

The reason for this is that Chris and I are responsible for all of the design concepts and ideas contained within the new Klim suit. We wrote the design spec for the garment and acted as consulatants throughout the design process.

This suit wasnt just designed on paper, what you see in these photographs is the third version of the suit after testing by multiple riders (including us) over approx 40-50k MILES of on and off road riding in all weather conditions.

This suit was NOT designed as a road suit with pretty extra bits and sandy coloured patches. Every single part of the suit has a purpose and was designed with nothing in mind other than a total riding focus.

This suit wasnt designed to a price. It was designed to do a job, and when we finished we worked out how much we needed to sell it for to make a standard profit. I can honestly say that I doubt there has EVER been a piece of clothing available to bikers that has more R&D and design focus than this. It is almost identical to our initial brief. No bean counters or 'design experts' have cut corners or added/removed pointless tat thanks to Klim and GoreTex believing in our design.

I can understand that there is speculation regarding many parts of the suit, particularly if you have never actually seen or worn one, but perhaps we can help some of the debate here.

Ask away...we can hopefully explain some of the features we designed in to the garments and reasons behind them.

Dave
Wow! Now, that is an endorsement, and, a resource for all of us. ! Awesome! Thanks for signing in, and, putting yourself out there. It says alot about your commitment, and, your reputation.

As mentioned above, I'm curious about this armor. Does it get hard when cold? What are the test #'s compared to other high end armor out there?

How well is the ventilation? How hot can you comfortably wear the suit?

Can you add any photos of the suit without the brace? Is there a ton of extra bulk around the neck?

Looks great! Can't wait to see it in the flesh.
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:23 AM   #115
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All kidding aside. What do you mean?
There's no way you could literally wrap a piece of NP around your finger like they did in that video. Well, at least not the elbow armor I have in my garage
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:34 AM   #116
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Doesn't the BMW Comfortshell suit offer very similar specifications ?
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Old 12-10-2009, 09:13 AM   #117
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Doesn't the BMW Comfortshell suit offer very similar specifications ?
Such as?

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Old 12-10-2009, 09:51 AM   #118
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There's no way you could literally wrap a piece of NP around your finger like they did in that video. Well, at least not the elbow armor I have in my garage
nor can you d30 after it is turned from goo into the armor. Search around again on you tube and you'll see that the goo is not the armor and the armor is more gel like, simular to the np.
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Old 12-10-2009, 11:14 AM   #119
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My name is Dave Lomax, together with Chris Colling I own Adventure-Spec Ltd.

If you look closely on the jacket front lower left pocket (and on the pant) you will see our logo, you will also see our name mentioned in the promotional material presented at the start of the thread.

The reason for this is that Chris and I are responsible for all of the design concepts and ideas contained within the new Klim suit. We wrote the design spec for the garment and acted as consulatants throughout the design process.

This suit wasnt just designed on paper, what you see in these photographs is the third version of the suit after testing by multiple riders (including us) over approx 40-50k MILES of on and off road riding in all weather conditions.

This suit was NOT designed as a road suit with pretty extra bits and sandy coloured patches. Every single part of the suit has a purpose and was designed with nothing in mind other than a total riding focus.

This suit wasnt designed to a price. It was designed to do a job, and when we finished we worked out how much we needed to sell it for to make a standard profit. I can honestly say that I doubt there has EVER been a piece of clothing available to bikers that has more R&D and design focus than this. It is almost identical to our initial brief. No bean counters or 'design experts' have cut corners or added/removed pointless tat thanks to Klim and GoreTex believing in our design.

I can understand that there is speculation regarding many parts of the suit, particularly if you have never actually seen or worn one, but perhaps we can help some of the debate here.

Ask away...we can hopefully explain some of the features we designed in to the garments and reasons behind them.

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Old 12-10-2009, 12:17 PM   #120
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Hey guys. I just heard from my Klim rep. Looks like a April 2010 release on the suit. Jacket $1299.99, Pants $844.99.

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