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Old 12-11-2009, 12:51 PM   #16
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Ricardo, here's another rear engine sidecar for you, 2WD Mitsubishi:

http://www.seehey-dakar.de

Wow, what a lawnmower...

How does it Jump, well how it land is what I like to know.
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Old 12-11-2009, 01:32 PM   #17
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You could not pay me enough to be a sidecar monkey...

All wheel drive makes complete sense to me on ANY vehicle. It is just how to do it reliably and without a huge weight penalty.
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Old 12-11-2009, 01:57 PM   #18
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You could not pay me enough to be a sidecar monkey...
Well I used to do this when i was young and strong and i will love to be a Monke, Specially with somebody as skillful as Scott, but sadly I'm to wasted after years of doing really stupid stuff, in short motorcycles are pretty much the safes thing I have ever done..


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All wheel drive makes complete sense to me on ANY vehicle. It is just how to do it reliably and without a huge weight penalty.
Yeah even on the track.

Can you imagine a three wheel drive Subaru WRX engine mounted property on a sidecar, Oh man I get scare just thinking about it.
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Old 12-13-2009, 08:07 AM   #19
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Nice M38!
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Old 12-30-2009, 05:05 AM   #20
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Confusing isn't it?




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Old 12-30-2009, 11:00 PM   #21
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Confusing isn't it?




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That is just Silly

The steering most be very heavy and the "Self-centering" effect of the fork rake for sure get all mess up, I don't know is just a very clumsy way to do it, with all this sliding half shafts and other shit the drag most take a big percentage of the engine power .

If you need front wheel drive must be a better way to do it and I'm pretty sure if somebody know how is you mister Richard.
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Old 12-31-2009, 06:57 AM   #22
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Try these:
http://news.motorbiker.org/blogs.nsf...4011MIKAZP.htm

http://christini.com/
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Old 12-31-2009, 02:12 PM   #23
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Actually this 2WD system was developped by Ohlins for quite some time now.
In the link below the 2WD complete story.
http://www.ohlins.com/Checkpoint-Ohl...omplete-Story/
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Old 12-31-2009, 05:28 PM   #24
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Actually this 2WD system was developped by Ohlins for quite some time now.
Unfortunately it's not possible to purchase this system. I tried to get one to experiment with.
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Old 12-31-2009, 05:41 PM   #25
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Unfortunately it's not possible to purchase this system. I tried to get one to experiment with.
Scott did you ever talk to Doug at Ohlins...??

I know this was more of a Euro release, but he has nexus all over the company.

I be your monster will love a little extra driven wheel.
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Old 12-31-2009, 06:07 PM   #26
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Scott did you ever talk to Doug at Ohlins...??
I emailed them, and got this response:

"Hello Scott. Thank you for your email. In 2006, Öhlins Sweden developed a 2WD system for motorcycles as an O.E.M. order for Yamaha France & Yamaha Australia. A small production run was done to satisfy this order. There was never an aftermarket “kit” developed, sorry. Thank you, Jerry"

I'm not sure if the Öhlins system would be a good thing or not for my setup. 1WD has worked far better than I would have expected, especially when I got a big tire on the rear. The only place I might want 2WD is in super soft sand dune mountains. Even there I'm not sure if it would help. I was considering installing it on the side wheel, then testing it in some monster dunes down in Mexico. But since I can't get the system, I'm looking into building a new rear swingarm, and installing an even wider rear tire, maybe 10 inches wide or so. The problem with 2WD for my sidecar is the weight and complication added to achieve it. I don't want to carry the weight and reliability penalty unless I absolutely have to.
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Old 01-01-2010, 06:58 AM   #27
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You can buy the Christini system but they are expensive and unless you are doing Endurocross I don't really see the need. Then again I own a 2 wheel drive Ural and 2 Rokons.

http://christini.com/purchase-contact.php
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Old 01-01-2010, 03:13 PM   #28
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How about a center hub front end with a belt or chain powered half shaft. Sounds pretty straight forward but it would have it's challenges no doubt
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Old 01-01-2010, 04:42 PM   #29
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How about a center hub front end with a belt or chain powered half shaft. Sounds pretty straight forward but it would have it's challenges no doubt
Like a Corda, you mean. That has a belt to the front.

I'm enjoying this thread. (No pun intended)
Keep it coming.....

Word of the day: d i f f e r e n t i a l .

Tomorrow the continuing story of .......

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Old 01-02-2010, 08:35 AM   #30
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The Christini drive setup is basically an updated Rokon drive without the overide spring and the 2 piece driveshaft. I wonder about their claim of 1/10th horsepower but I have always liked their design.

http://christini.com/awd-technology.php
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