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Old 12-24-2009, 05:37 AM   #61
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What kit did you use to convert it??
Someone on Candlepower forum was selling an LED setup for the six-cell maglites-It's been several years now,so I can't remember who I got it from-It works very well,though-bright as hell!
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Old 12-24-2009, 06:17 AM   #62
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What I don't like about the Maglites is the tendency for the batteries to swell and leak,especially if left in a cold car. This isn't really the fault of the flashlight,but irritating anyway. I just managed to save an LED flashlight that uses 2 C batteries that I keep in my truck-the batteries swelled up in that one,and I had to punch them out -now I keep it in the truck with the batteries seperate. I have not seen AA batteries do this,however.
I had the same situation with my AA maglite. My situation was different. The flashlight never seemed to get cold-rather got hot. It stopped working one day, I pulled it apart and the batteries had corroded and leaked all inside the flashlight. Into the garbage it went. My 3 cell next to me has been in weather down to 0 with no swelling.

I guess I dont' know much about batteries etc and have never heard of the cold issue.

This thread caused me to pick up two new brackets to install in each car and on the wall.
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Old 12-24-2009, 06:41 AM   #63
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I sense some dislike over the maglites. Not quite sure why. Bullet proof, upgradeable xenon bulb, doubles as, um, a hammer and is really unable to be lost.
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OK... so it's not just me..

I think it is because they are the KLR of flashlights; cheap, generally indestructible, good reputation for quality and durability, available everywhere and popular:

They haven't really changed in a couple decades... not that that is always a bad thing, but this is America and generally things that don't change or at least keep up technologically tend to fall by the wayside...

Just look at this product line... for a company that has had this much success, I'm surprised this is the extent of their offerings:

http://www.maglite.com/productline.asp

Yup... 8 flashlights..... let me say that again..... 8 flashlights.... that's it... and all are basically of the same design... I'm 33 and I can't remember them being any different than they are today...

It seems like they could have long ago started diversifying into the specialty sub markets like many of the premium manufacturers represented in the many other posts in this thread... I mean how many light makers are truly a household name like Maglite... shoot even my mom knows what a Maglite is... they must have a serious cash cow on their hands with the current line up.... but they don't have anything like the diversity of some of the other makers...



I still like mine, so I guess it is fine that they haven't changed... (I still like some good bourbons that haven't been changed in a century or so...) but I can see why people that talk about such things would be a bit disappointed in Maglite's popularity...
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Old 12-24-2009, 06:43 AM   #64
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The upgrade kits seem to cost about the same as buying a new LED maglite, at least in the 3 or 4 cell range. Amazon has the 3 or 4 "D" cell 3 watt LED Maglites for $26-$28.
http://www.amazon.com/MAGLITE-ST3D01...bxgy_hi_text_c
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http://www.amazon.com/MAGLITE-ST4D01...ref=pd_cp_hi_1
Yeah... I know.... But I was thinking that maybe someone is making an upgrade kit that is waaaaaay better than was is offered stock from Maglite for around the same money...
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Old 12-24-2009, 06:50 AM   #65
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Check out the Inova T4. Really bright high quality rechargeable, comes with 12VDC and 120VAC charger, and holster for about 120.00.

http://www.inovalight.com/t.html
Interesting... do you have any experience with OEM rechargables??? If they are anything like my DeWalt 18V drills I'm gonna have no luck.... mostly because I would not be using it all the time.... With the DeWalts I usually have a dead battery after a short time of use because I am just a weekend user; they just don't hold a charge over a long period of time... so it is great they come with two batteries and charge pretty quickly...

I could understand rechargables if you use flashlights heavily everyday in your work (I'm thinking mining, PM security, etc), but I would use a big flash light once a week maybe..
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Old 12-24-2009, 09:27 PM   #66
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Interesting... do you have any experience with OEM rechargables??? If they are anything like my DeWalt 18V drills I'm gonna have no luck.... mostly because I would not be using it all the time.... With the DeWalts I usually have a dead battery after a short time of use because I am just a weekend user; they just don't hold a charge over a long period of time... so it is great they come with two batteries and charge pretty quickly...

I could understand rechargables if you use flashlights heavily everyday in your work (I'm thinking mining, PM security, etc), but I would use a big flash light once a week maybe..
The problem with Nickle chemistry batteries is that they self discharge over time.

The Nimh's do this worse than the Nicads. But they all loose capacity with disuse. I've made a habit of charging and discharging my Nimh and Nicad RC model batteries once a month if they are used or not.

The Lithium rechargables, on the other hand, can sit for months with nearly a full charge in them and not suffer much capacity loss.
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Old 12-24-2009, 10:00 PM   #67
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Interesting... do you have any experience with OEM rechargables??? If they are anything like my DeWalt 18V drills I'm gonna have no luck.... mostly because I would not be using it all the time.... With the DeWalts I usually have a dead battery after a short time of use because I am just a weekend user; they just don't hold a charge over a long period of time... so it is great they come with two batteries and charge pretty quickly...

I could understand rechargables if you use flashlights heavily everyday in your work (I'm thinking mining, PM security, etc), but I would use a big flash light once a week maybe..
The Inova T4 uses lithium batteries. I mislaid one of mine for over 6 months, and when I finally found it, the charge was enough that the light ran for over an hour. I don't recall what the state of charge was when it was lost, but I still think that is outstanding. I'm in law enforcement and need a dependable light. I've been issued a couple of Streamlights, and they are just OK. Their customer support is outstanding, though. I just wish that I never had to need it.
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Old 12-25-2009, 02:00 AM   #68
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Two things I'd like to see improved on the Maglite. Some kind of rubber over the metal where you hold it, cause even with decent gloves they are pretty cold to carry very long in sub-zero weather. The other thing would be a flat spot so they don't roll around so much when you set them down on a hard surface to work on something.
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Old 12-25-2009, 08:48 AM   #69
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the Fenix LD01 gives 80lm in roughly the same size package with variable output; or the nitecore EZ-AA gives 130lm and is only a little bigger
Not what I was getting at. The one in my post was an "all the time" utility flashlight meant for everyday carry in a size so small as to be unnoticeable and an output good enough for walking in the dark, yet with long battery life. That last one is what makes it so great. You virtually never have to worry about it being close to the end of battery life.

Those lights you mention are nice, but they force you into "chasing battery mode" which I abhor. My suggestion was not a high speed, low drag, tacticool ninja light. Just one that belongs in the pocket next to the swiss army knife.
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Old 12-25-2009, 09:10 AM   #70
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I also use a Princeton Tec Apex headlamp. It's a popular light in the caving crowd. It makes my old Photon Fusion look like it's not even on. I know one caver though who is using the Fenix headlamp.
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Old 12-25-2009, 09:22 AM   #71
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Surefires are great.

But I like my Streamlight sidewinder even more. $59 US.
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Old 12-25-2009, 01:14 PM   #72
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the swiss army knife.
don't get me started on those ... every man should have one in his pocket
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don't get me started on those ... every man should have one in his pocket
I thought they were outlawed in GB??? You know... too dangerous to be trusted to the average person...




















































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I thought they were outlawed in GB??? You know... too dangerous to be trusted to the average person...


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Two things I'd like to see improved on the Maglite. Some kind of rubber over the metal where you hold it, cause even with decent gloves they are pretty cold to carry very long in sub-zero weather. The other thing would be a flat spot so they don't roll around so much when you set them down on a hard surface to work on something.



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