Great Western Trail Tracks Wanted bits and pieces OK!!!! - Page 5

Countdown · 06-03-2011, 12:36 PM

GWT Prescott map. Note loop just south of Camp Verde and top east of Williams.

Countdown · 06-03-2011, 12:43 PM

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Countdown · 06-03-2011, 04:55 PM

This is what I ahve for Arizona, looking for any additional Active Logs.

wbbnm · 06-05-2011, 09:21 AM

Jerry,

Looks like a great ride. Thanks for the tracks. I will add them to my collection.

Good to see the route around Jerome worked.

Were there any really difficult places south of 89?

The hardest one we saw was the small ledge going up into the mountains about 5 miles north of the Verde River. And it caused no trouble.

Countdown · 06-05-2011, 09:10 PM

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Good to see the route around Jerome worked.

Were there any really difficult places south of 89?

The hardest one we saw was the small ledge going up into the mountains about 5 miles north of the Verde River. And it caused no trouble.

There were two sections where I wouldn't take an adventure bike. They have waypoints named "Rocks". Don't remember any ledges.

The road into Jerome was no problem and no gates (but lots of rocks). It is a pipe line road. I say a cast iron valve cover, then just before Jerome I saw it come out from under the road. A game warden I ran into knew it and a guy at the Grand Hotel in Jerome knew it.

Buddy_Holly · 06-08-2011, 10:12 PM

This summer I plan on doing the GWT. Right now I am having trouble route planning from globe to camp creek, in AZ. Can anyone help with this portion of the ride?

Thanks in Advance.

BH

Countdown · 06-09-2011, 05:07 PM

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This summer I plan on doing the GWT. Right now I am having trouble route planning from globe to camp creek, in AZ. Can anyone help with this portion of the ride? BH

I don't think there IS a GWT to ride yet. I was hoping that people would help document one that works for motorcycles. Where do you live? can you help find route? I am going back later this summer to work from Williams into Utah. I hae no desire to go to southern part of state until winter.

Big Dog did one but it does not follow GWT web site routes.

Any don't know where camp creek is but I have a couple possibilities on GPSXchange.com and have ask for trakcs there also.

Jerry

Buddy_Holly · 06-09-2011, 10:42 PM

Jerry,
I am using the GWT website and benchmark maps to help guide my trip. I think there is not one way to do this whole trip there are many ways. I am almost through with the gpx track I will use for Arizona. I will finish the rest of the states by next week. Unlike bigdog I will finish at the Candian border in Montana.

I kind of like that the GWT isn't just one set of roads, and maybe we will finally come up with a preferred route, but that can't happen until people run it a variety of ways or someone says this is the GWT for dual sports. Kind of like the TAT, and even that folks find better additions to or alter the route to their own needs and wants, everyone has to make the ride their own anyhow.

The trip I will take this summer might get completely changed anyhow due to wildfires, and the flooding in Montana and Wyoming. Also the GWT in Utah follows many different routes north and south according to the map at GWT.org.

I live in Gallup and have done the southern portion of the GWT from Lochiel to Globe. This summer I will ride the rest, as best as I can follow the general and specific trail notes at the GWT website.

I think the GWT is a great project and a really cool thing to do would to ride the GWT one direction and the CDT the opposite. I just don't have that much time.

I have been working on planning this ride of and on for three years and I can't wait to start out in a couple of weeks.

Thanks for your interest and help and all of the help inmates here have given towards putting together bits of the GWT as they have found them.

Countdown · 06-10-2011, 06:55 PM

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I have been working on planning this ride of and on for three years and I can't wait to start out in a couple of weeks.

You couold have saved three years of planning and just do http://mex2can.com/ ! It is turn key.

Buddy_Holly · 06-10-2011, 10:48 PM

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You couold have saved three years of planning and just do http://mex2can.com/ ! It is turn key.

I know, that pretty much follows the GWT. I will even do some of the same ground as them. I will just end up a little east of their ending point.

Buddy_Holly · 06-14-2011, 04:08 PM

Finding a route through Montana is currently kicking my butt. What I had penciled in on my Benchmark maps is just a trail for hiking/horses. Thankfully there is Google Earth. Right now I am working backwards from my ending point.

Buddy_Holly · 06-14-2011, 05:49 PM

I think I will have to modify the route to use the Tour of Idaho route. From BigDog. It just looks too good.

Countdown · 06-14-2011, 08:02 PM

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I know, that pretty much follows the GWT. I will even do some of the same ground as them. I will just end up a little east of their ending point.

Mex2Can route is no where near the GWT? Where did you get this idea?

HogWild · 06-14-2011, 08:20 PM

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I think I will have to modify the route to use the Tour of Idaho route. From BigDog. It just looks too good.

I sat down for an hour and hammered out Idaho. This track overlays perfectly with the lines on the GWT map HERE, and includes only roads, no hiking trails. Of course I haven't ridden it, so not 100% sure there are no locked gates. Several of the lines on that map can not be ridden, as they cross major rivers where there is no bridge, and sometimes go across mountains where there are no roads. I didn't include those.

Buddy_Holly · 06-14-2011, 11:23 PM

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Mex2Can route is no where near the GWT? Where did you get this idea?

CD

If I understand your question right you think that the route BigDog took was the GWT. If so I don't even think he ever said that. His route followed part of the GWT but didn't do the whole route as seen by maps provided by the GWT organization. The overall map provided by the GWT organization shows just areas of consideration for the GWT Canadian terminus, and routing through everything basically north of the northern border of wyoming. On that map the end of the GWT is in Montana probably 100 miles east of where BigDog ended up.

Did I misunderstand your question- or do I just have old information?

06-08-2011, 10:12 PM	#66
Buddy_Holly ^OP Imminent Train Wreck Joined: Apr 2008 Location: Gallup, NM Oddometer: 849	Getting Ready This summer I plan on doing the GWT. Right now I am having trouble route planning from globe to camp creek, in AZ. Can anyone help with this portion of the ride? Thanks in Advance. BH

06-09-2011, 10:42 PM	#68
Buddy_Holly ^OP Imminent Train Wreck Joined: Apr 2008 Location: Gallup, NM Oddometer: 849	Gwt? Jerry, I am using the GWT website and benchmark maps to help guide my trip. I think there is not one way to do this whole trip there are many ways. I am almost through with the gpx track I will use for Arizona. I will finish the rest of the states by next week. Unlike bigdog I will finish at the Candian border in Montana. I kind of like that the GWT isn't just one set of roads, and maybe we will finally come up with a preferred route, but that can't happen until people run it a variety of ways or someone says this is the GWT for dual sports. Kind of like the TAT, and even that folks find better additions to or alter the route to their own needs and wants, everyone has to make the ride their own anyhow. The trip I will take this summer might get completely changed anyhow due to wildfires, and the flooding in Montana and Wyoming. Also the GWT in Utah follows many different routes north and south according to the map at GWT.org. I live in Gallup and have done the southern portion of the GWT from Lochiel to Globe. This summer I will ride the rest, as best as I can follow the general and specific trail notes at the GWT website. I think the GWT is a great project and a really cool thing to do would to ride the GWT one direction and the CDT the opposite. I just don't have that much time. I have been working on planning this ride of and on for three years and I can't wait to start out in a couple of weeks. Thanks for your interest and help and all of the help inmates here have given towards putting together bits of the GWT as they have found them.

06-14-2011, 04:08 PM	#71
Buddy_Holly ^OP Imminent Train Wreck Joined: Apr 2008 Location: Gallup, NM Oddometer: 849	Montana Finding a route through Montana is currently kicking my butt. What I had penciled in on my Benchmark maps is just a trail for hiking/horses. Thankfully there is Google Earth. Right now I am working backwards from my ending point.

06-14-2011, 05:49 PM	#72
Buddy_Holly ^OP Imminent Train Wreck Joined: Apr 2008 Location: Gallup, NM Oddometer: 849	Too Much Road I think I will have to modify the route to use the Tour of Idaho route. From BigDog. It just looks too good.

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06-05-2011, 09:21 AM	#64
wbbnm Beastly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2007 Location: Abq NM Oddometer: 1,203	Jerry, Looks like a great ride. Thanks for the tracks. I will add them to my collection. Good to see the route around Jerome worked. Were there any really difficult places south of 89? The hardest one we saw was the small ledge going up into the mountains about 5 miles north of the Verde River. And it caused no trouble.