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Old 03-11-2013, 06:43 AM   #46
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I studied this route over the course of many years prior to actually riding it. I had calculated the mileage between all the fuel stops and figured I always had no less then half a tank.

I was planning on entering DV at Goler wash and filled up at Trona. On this trip my KTM 950 had stock fuel tank with a range of about 120-125 miles. I think I had gone 80 miles. I brought several maps including a very detailed one "Southern California Backcountry Trails" which has mileage at each fork. I found this extremely helpful as there are strange turns up in Goler and into Mengal.

I preran this route in a 4x4 and would prerun it again in a 4x4 before riding my bike as I've heard this section is washed out much worse.

I've heard of people asking for the large propaline coffee bags at Starbucks to use as temporary fuel containers and fill them up last minute to strap up in a drybag.

There is gas at Furnace Creek in the center of DV, also at Stovepipe Wells. There is no gas at Scotty's Castle.
Did you download or were you able to buy the map Southern California Backcountry Trails?..if you bought it let me know where..I want to get one..
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:58 AM   #47
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surviving Death Valley

would not attempt this trip without a Personal Survival kit and extra water and fuel
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Old 03-11-2013, 01:55 PM   #48
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I just read the lost Germans story. My interest is growing in a big way to ride the back roads.

My wife and I plan on living in California in the Winter time to start and possibilly year round if we find a place to buy that suits us. I'm leaning towards the San Luis Obispo area and my wife to Orange county. We will rent next Winter and look for an area we like.

How is the weather in Death Valley in the Winter? OK for riding and camping or just too crappy and cold?
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:51 PM   #49
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Did you download or were you able to buy the map Southern California Backcountry Trails?..if you bought it let me know where..I want to get one..
It's called the Southern California Backcountry Discovery Guide. Look it up on Amazon. They also do them for a few other states and they are great. It showed me some great rides near and now very dear to me, including the Main Divide Trail south leading into the San Mateo Creek Wilderness Area.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:01 PM   #50
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Rustic pics man - gives the RR a different feel for sure.

I would agree with you in one respect - Do NOT ride Death Valley solo without extra tubes!!! Not sure what flat fix would even do for a pinch flat in a rock garden.....

nice job,
I learned a trick from my good buddy BayGecko, intricately and precisely duct tape the inside of the wheel after sealing the insides of the spokes. Then placing the rubber strap baack over the wheel and tube back on. This allows you to use fix a flat in a light puncture. I never had a chance to see if it ever worked on the 950, although it's worked on other bikes.

However, I would NOT recommend its use on a big adventure bike and I now am back to carrying spare tire irons and pump, spare tubes and tools.
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Old 03-12-2013, 02:30 AM   #51
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It's called the Southern California Backcountry Discovery Guide. Look it up on Amazon. They also do them for a few other states and they are great. It showed me some great rides near and now very dear to me, including the Main Divide Trail south leading into the San Mateo Creek Wilderness Area.

thank you..I'll order it today... California, here i come!.......sounds like one trip that will HAVE to be thought out properly, organized and ridden with caution....I usually plan out my trips but not to the details this one will require....
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:48 AM   #52
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It's called the Southern California Backcountry Discovery Guide. Look it up on Amazon. They also do them for a few other states and they are great. It showed me some great rides near and now very dear to me, including the Main Divide Trail south leading into the San Mateo Creek Wilderness Area.

Found out the other day that book is no longer in print and is considered rare....hence the high price for used if you can find it...but on the brighter side , Alder Publishing carries newer versions (updated?) for a number of regions in CA...they have books for the Northern Sierra Region, North Coast Region, High Sierra Region, Central Mountains Region, Desert Region and the South Coast region plus a host of maps for the areas.....contact Angela at customerservice@adlerpublishing.com to order..I'm ordering a few of the books in spiral binding and a couple of maps....she will organize shipping too....
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Old 03-14-2013, 09:11 AM   #53
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Found out the other day that book is no longer in print and is considered rare....hence the high price for used if you can find it...but on the brighter side , Alder Publishing carries newer versions (updated?) for a number of regions in CA...they have books for the Northern Sierra Region, North Coast Region, High Sierra Region, Central Mountains Region, Desert Region and the South Coast region plus a host of maps for the areas.....contact Angela at customerservice@adlerpublishing.com to order..I'm ordering a few of the books in spiral binding and a couple of maps....she will organize shipping too....
Seems cheaper to buy that old version for $50 used with all the regions than to buy 4-6 different ones at $25 each. Let us know how the newer versions are
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:47 AM   #54
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Seems cheaper to buy that old version for $50 used with all the regions than to buy 4-6 different ones at $25 each. Let us know how the newer versions are

a few things I refuse to buy used...vehicles, clothing, and BOOKS....too much DNA attached to that stuff...
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Old 03-16-2013, 10:08 AM   #55
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I ride across Death Valley solo on the end of september 2011, on my FZS 600, from Lone Pine, CA to Amargosa, NV. It was hard because there was 42/44š C (107/111 šF), but there wasnīt any problem. Just bring water an care with tornados. I remember that day rains just a very little bit.

You can check it and see photos on:

http://topalante.es/44

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Old 03-16-2013, 06:54 PM   #56
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I remember this thread from a few years ago. Here's another variation on the theme.

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=862727
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Old 03-18-2013, 05:17 AM   #57
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Sorry my poor english:
This is the right traslation of my slogan:

"There isnīt any road too far, if the biker rides with a drive." (Topalante)

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Old 03-18-2013, 05:18 AM   #58
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Article on the Death of the Germans

Tragic to say the least...not a nice way to die....(if there is one).....
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Old 03-18-2013, 05:24 AM   #59
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Somebody died or what? I didnīt know it. Rest in Peace. Unfortunally, everydays dies a biker, not only in Death Valley.

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Old 03-19-2013, 08:07 PM   #60
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A good DV report to check out...

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I remember this thread from a few years ago. Here's another variation on the theme.

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=862727
A great report worth following.

Thanks for posting!
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