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Old 01-24-2012, 04:05 PM   #361
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So tear it down even if it runs perfect??????? 3 top ends in 200 hours..............you must run that thing HARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yep this is the third top end.
Actually, I probably don't ride it hard.
I don't ride WFO, I don't ride the desert,or MX, and I can't remember the last time I had it in 5th gear. I clean the air filter EVERY ride. Premium gas and Moterex pre mix like religion.
I've never had reason to tear it down other than what the manual says. This tear down is a bit early, but I don't want to go into the enduro season without a fresh motor. I figure I'll look at it again between June and Sept during the "red sticker" break.
Most of my riding is single track and making the thing grunt over rock climbs, logs and the like. More finess than pined to win.
Hell, I have a Ducati that you need to drop the motor just to CHECK the valves! God help me when I need to actually adjust 'em.
The KTM is simple. (and it keeps me out of the house)
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Old 01-24-2012, 06:21 PM   #362
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'08 300 xc-w with 10200 miles/ 375 hrs

Been a great bike riding dual sport in MI. At 200 hrs I replaced stock piston with same and just now at 375 I went next larger (71.925 to71.935). In retro I could have just ringed it at 200. I ride inof a lot sand and really only ride it hard when I decide to. I'm a lugger and esp in single track I'm not spinning it up at all (I don't race anymore). Rode Cannontrek on it in 2009. Just cleaned PV 1st time also. It was OK and could have kept going. Amsoil at 60 to 1 leaves the piston a lot cleaner than 50 to 1. I jet 168/38/n8re(3). 13/14/50 sprokets. At steady 1/8 throttle on road it will rat-tat but cleans up once I get more into the needle/main. Love the bike!
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Old 01-24-2012, 08:09 PM   #363
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Been a great bike riding dual sport in MI. At 200 hrs I replaced stock piston with same and just now at 375 I went next larger (71.925 to71.935). In retro I could have just ringed it at 200. I ride inof a lot sand and really only ride it hard when I decide to. I'm a lugger and esp in single track I'm not spinning it up at all (I don't race anymore). Rode Cannontrek on it in 2009. Just cleaned PV 1st time also. It was OK and could have kept going. Amsoil at 60 to 1 leaves the piston a lot cleaner than 50 to 1. I jet 168/38/n8re(3). 13/14/50 sprokets. At steady 1/8 throttle on road it will rat-tat but cleans up once I get more into the needle/main. Love the bike!
Nuf said!

They are very reliable.
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:16 AM   #364
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Been a great bike riding dual sport in MI. At 200 hrs I replaced stock piston with same and just now at 375 I went next larger (71.925 to71.935). In retro I could have just ringed it at 200. I ride inof a lot sand and really only ride it hard when I decide to. I'm a lugger and esp in single track I'm not spinning it up at all (I don't race anymore). Rode Cannontrek on it in 2009. Just cleaned PV 1st time also. It was OK and could have kept going. Amsoil at 60 to 1 leaves the piston a lot cleaner than 50 to 1. I jet 168/38/n8re(3). 13/14/50 sprokets. At steady 1/8 throttle on road it will rat-tat but cleans up once I get more into the needle/main. Love the bike!
For sure on the 60:1. Damn! 10k miles!! Wow! Very cool.
The 08 and newer KTM 300s are hard to beat. Even in the republic of California, land of the Red and Green sticker seasons, dealers can't keep them on the floor. I called many, many, dealers before locating mine. I've demo'ed a number of 4 strokes thinking I was missing out not riding a lot of places because of the RED sticker season. So far, nothing puts the grin on like my 300.....
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:10 AM   #365
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Been a great bike riding dual sport in MI. At 200 hrs I replaced stock piston with same and just now at 375 I went next larger (71.925 to71.935). In retro I could have just ringed it at 200. I ride inof a lot sand and really only ride it hard when I decide to. I'm a lugger and esp in single track I'm not spinning it up at all (I don't race anymore). Rode Cannontrek on it in 2009. Just cleaned PV 1st time also. It was OK and could have kept going. Amsoil at 60 to 1 leaves the piston a lot cleaner than 50 to 1. I jet 168/38/n8re(3). 13/14/50 sprokets. At steady 1/8 throttle on road it will rat-tat but cleans up once I get more into the needle/main. Love the bike!
Any idea what your mpg range has been over those 10k miles? Or typical mileage under particular conditions?
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:18 AM   #366
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Any idea what your mpg range has been over those 10k miles? Or typical mileage under particular conditions?

I get about 30mpg with lean jetting at high altitude (8-12k').

35mpg with tall gearing while dual sporting.
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Old 01-25-2012, 06:27 PM   #367
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Any idea what your mpg range has been over those 10k miles? Or typical mileage under particular conditions?
25-30
I have stock 2.9 tank and carry a short fuel line in my air box and usually have a water bottle along. I have never run out other than rolling into a gas station once or challenging myself by not topping off Long story short I plan on 25 mpg and may get 30 and ride with guys with lots of fuel. 60 to 1 is 2oz and the travel shampoo bottles sold at drug stores hold 4oz. I wrap them in gas station paper towel. They take very little space in a ktm fanny pack.
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:08 PM   #368
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I put a Clarke 3.8 gal tank on mine, money well spent. Bike's a little heavy early in the ride but as I warm up, it lightens up and I think I'm faster

It easily last as long as I want to ride in a single loop, probably 120mi with reserve. Range isn't a concern anymore.
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:50 PM   #369
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I put a Clarke 3.8 gal tank on mine, money well spent. Bike's a little heavy early in the ride but as I warm up, it lightens up and I think I'm faster

It easily last as long as I want to ride in a single loop, probably 120mi with reserve. Range isn't a concern anymore.
Does the 6.6g acerbis fit the 300 (2006) I was just looking at justgastanks site and it showed it for the 300. I have one on my 07 450exc. Lot of gas but it would be fun for a long desert ride
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Old 01-26-2012, 04:04 AM   #370
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Does the 6.6g acerbis fit the 300 (2006) I was just looking at justgastanks site and it showed it for the 300. I have one on my 07 450exc. Lot of gas but it would be fun for a long desert ride
I've seen the acerbis tank as well but haven't seen any reviews on fitment for the 300. Do you like the acerbis on your 450? You've got a great ride report going on too:)

Most of the group rides around here would easily exceed my range right now.
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Old 01-26-2012, 05:11 AM   #371
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I found an 01' nearby that the guy says is freshly rebuilt. The cylinder was replated, seals & bearings replaced 0.0 hours. Guy's asking $2200. I told him to email/call when he has it plated in NC.

Even with a fresh engine I'm not sure I want one that old. I don't want to buy something that's worn out.

What kind of upgrades where made over the years? Besides e-start & a 6 speed what's different between 01' and 12'?
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:09 AM   #372
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I found an 01' nearby that the guy says is freshly rebuilt. The cylinder was replated, seals & bearings replaced 0.0 hours. Guy's asking $2200. I told him to email/call when he has it plated in NC.

Even with a fresh engine I'm not sure I want one that old. I don't want to buy something that's worn out.

What kind of upgrades where made over the years? Besides e-start & a 6 speed what's different between 01' and 12'?
That price is high...I "stole" mine as i paid $1900 for a street titled 07. I see street titles ones occasionally in the mid to high 2K range.
Found one here for you...http://asheville.craigslist.org/mcy/2811342954.html
A titled 07 XC-W in NC for $2600
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:33 AM   #373
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That price is high...I "stole" mine as i paid $1900 for a street titled 07. I see street titles ones occasionally in the mid to high 2K range.
Found one here for you...http://asheville.craigslist.org/mcy/2811342954.html
A titled 07 XC-W in NC for $2600

I'll keep shopping. 01' a bit too old too.

I'd already seen the one you linked, but I checked out his photos and it looked pretty worn. Thanks for the link.

I'll keep looking and sooner or later the "right" one will turn up.
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:49 AM   #374
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I found an 01' nearby that the guy says is freshly rebuilt. The cylinder was replated, seals & bearings replaced 0.0 hours. Guy's asking $2200. I told him to email/call when he has it plated in NC.

Even with a fresh engine I'm not sure I want one that old. I don't want to buy something that's worn out.

What kind of upgrades where made over the years? Besides e-start & a 6 speed what's different between 01' and 12'?
The senses is, in 04 they changed up the motor. Made it smaller and lighter, and cleaned up the jetting. In 05, they upgraded the frame to an ovalized tubing. They did not become six speeds until 2011. I would go as far back as an 04. In 07 there were some chages to the frame geometry and suspension. Out of the box in 07 the suspension was better. 08, got a new frame, and on the W, it got electric start. Lots of small changes from 08 to present.
Mostly in the suspension, and steering geometry. The suspension has been improved every year.

I had my 05 revalved and resprung by Allen Stillwell. Whole new bike after that! I drool over the 2011's and 2012's. But I really don't see that it would be a huge improvement over mine right now. I would like to have the Slaven's Mule mod done. I would not sweat over the 5 and 6 speed transmissions. There are some gear charts on KTM Talk, showing the difference. Pretty much the same top speed as the 5. The suspension upgrades on the newer bikes
would be important to me. Interestingly the wieght on the bikes have not changed a whole lot since 04. They may
be a few pounds lighter, meaning the 10's to 12's. The addition of the electric start added a little weight to the motor.
Could not go wrong on this bike.
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:57 AM   #375
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DirtDad,

Thanks for such a good detailed reply. That helps a lot.
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