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Old 01-15-2010, 03:44 PM   #46
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Very possible...

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Here's to hoping that KTM delivers 2-strokes with EFI in the next few years or so....
I tell you what...I think you could possibly be right on track.

I saw an interview with one of their engineers. According to that gentleman, their current production (2T) bikes meet "Euro 3" emissions requirements. And, I believe that he said that their next round of ring-dingers (2011?) will meet "Euro 4".

If I had been given the above info. by one of my buddies, I woulda' told him that he was full of it, and argued with him until the beer ran-out. However, considering the source, I was pretty impressed. It sure seems that KTM is fully committed to the longevity of the 2-stroke experience.

When I got my 300, I was surprised by the mix ratio (60:1). When I was a kid (during the Civil War), all 2T bikes were around the 32:1 range. (I can't exactly remember...But, I think my last CR500 was in the 40:1 range...or maybe that was my gas trimmer...) Anyway, I'm sure KTM's low ratio number has something to do with their ability to meet such stringent requirements. You gotta' hand it to them for advancing 2-stroke tech.

Either way, it's great that KTM is still doing great things with the 2-stroke, in my very humble opinion.
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Old 01-15-2010, 04:40 PM   #47
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I tell you what...I think you could possibly be right on track.

I saw an interview with one of their engineers. According to that gentleman, their current production (2T) bikes meet "Euro 3" emissions requirements. And, I believe that he said that their next round of ring-dingers (2011?) will meet "Euro 4".

If I had been given the above info. by one of my buddies, I woulda' told him that he was full of it, and argued with him until the beer ran-out. However, considering the source, I was pretty impressed. It sure seems that KTM is fully committed to the longevity of the 2-stroke experience.
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I think the video below is the one you are talking about. Towards the 7 min mark the guy says that they are currently meeting Euro 3, they will meet Euro 4 and if they want to, they could meet Euro 5 as well on both 2/4-strokes. They will continue to innovate and are already working on "alternatives to carbs for fueling".

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Old 01-15-2010, 04:56 PM   #48
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My father-in law rides an older KTM 300. He's a madman at 79 but has slowed down enough in the last couple of years that I able to just keep up with on my 690e.

He is looking for a new 300 with electric start and wants to get it street legal in Colorado or Arizona. Can this be done in either state?

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Old 01-15-2010, 05:20 PM   #49
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THE KTM 300 IS NOT A THUMPER.
It's a good bike though.
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Old 01-15-2010, 05:30 PM   #50
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THE KTM 300 IS NOT A THUMPER.
It's a good bike though.
Good for you but who cares? You already said the same thing before.
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Old 01-15-2010, 07:16 PM   #51
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I do have to admit there is one thing I see with the 300s that really is hard to ignore which is the placement of the expansion chamber.

How many of you 300 owners have squished, bent or mangled your expansion chambers?

I can't see where else it may be routed though.
I saw a nice plastic skid plate/pipe protector made by hyde racing -- the two are integrated into one system and it looks like it protects the pipe very well - has anyone used on of these - their web site is www.hyderacing.com
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Old 01-15-2010, 07:21 PM   #52
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You know, Lukas, life is not fair. I could probably Google "KTM", all day long, and never come-up with something cool to watch. Thanks for sharing the link. I really enjoyed it. In fact, I may have to watch it a couple more times.

However, I wanna' say that the footage, that I saw (discussing KTM's two-strokes), was "filler" for some race that I was watching (if I remember correctly). And, I believe that it was another (KTM) guy who was being interviewed.

If y'all can oblige me for a few seconds...

I love to hear their company guys speak about their daily work. They have that PASSION that they don't even bother trying to conceal (because you would see it anyway). Their words don't seem contrived, like an advertisement...Just right there...Here's who we are, and here's what we do.

They remind me of the Soichiro Honda, Hirotake Arai, and "Pops" Yoshimura types of old...innovators, perfectionists, and fanatics. Hell, in the vid., one of the guys even says that they are "fanatics".

I hope that KTM stays true to their "Ready to Race" roots and philosophy, and never gets the urge to water-down their products because of some outside (or inside) influence. Their commitment to their brand is the reason why my garage is turning ORANGE...

Sorry for my rambling...Back to the 3-honey.
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Old 01-15-2010, 09:24 PM   #53
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Good for you but who cares? You already said the same thing before.
And what section are we in?
Thumpers that's it so it shouldn't even be here.
Moderators,what's the dealio?
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Old 01-16-2010, 01:37 AM   #54
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And what section are we in?
Thumpers that's it so it shouldn't even be here.
Moderators,what's the dealio?
The dealio is that Thumpers is where people post about ALL single cylinder bikes on Advrider, regardless whether they thump or not. The mods don't want/need to create another subforum just for 2-strokes as they fit well in here and there is not too many of them.
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Old 01-16-2010, 03:30 AM   #55
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I saw a nice plastic skid plate/pipe protector made by hyde racing -- the two are integrated into one system and it looks like it protects the pipe very well - has anyone used on of these - their web site is www.hyderacing.com
Have a Hyde on a 200exc and 300exc.The 200 is one of my sons bikes and has been through the wringer.The pipe guard has some pretty nasty gouges in it but not a mark on the pipe.
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Old 01-16-2010, 07:59 AM   #56
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I notice KTM has a accessory fan kit for the 300 - I ride with a guy that has a 450 and it was a must for his bike - Does the 300 need to have this also if it is being ridden on slow tight single track?
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Old 01-16-2010, 09:44 AM   #57
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I notice KTM has a accessory fan kit for the 300 - I ride with a guy that has a 450 and it was a must for his bike - Does the 300 need to have this also if it is being ridden on slow tight single track?
Some may argue this about the 300's (vs the 250, and for that the answer is almost always no...). The 4-s can really use the fan for that kind of riding. The 2-s are much more forgiving when it comes to the heat issue. If you're slipping the clutch like mad for long distances, then anything can boil. Most of it of comes down to the bike set up matching the terrain, and rider technique plays into it too. If you're riding in really nasty terrain, then set the bike up with the right gearing, power valve settings, and consider a G2 throttle cam to make it more tractor-like (less reliance on slipping clutch). It wouldn't hurt on any of those bikes to change the radiator fluid out to something like Engine-ice or Evans.
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Old 01-16-2010, 10:19 AM   #58
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I can tell you I'd love to have the street legal package they sell across the pond.
It is pretty easy to do with bits and pieces from KTM, TrailTech Enduro Engineering, and Sicass. Mine started out as a 2008 300 XC that had been raced by someone else.



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It is pretty easy to do with bits and pieces from KTM, TrailTech Enduro Engineering, and Sicass. Mine started out as a 2008 300 XC that had been raced by someone else.



Nice looking bike - I have a question about the speedo - Who makes it and where did you get the mount? Does it use and magnetic pickup? I will be needing one for my XC - I wish the XC came with one like the XCW does. I looked into buying the XCW setup from KTM, but its too $$$$
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Nice looking bike - I have a question about the speedo - Who makes it and where did you get the mount? Does it use and magnetic pickup? I will be needing one for my XC - I wish the XC came with one like the XCW does. I looked into buying the XCW setup from KTM, but its too $$$$
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