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Old 11-11-2013, 12:23 AM   #3181
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Old 11-11-2013, 12:37 AM   #3182
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My bet it's traction control via pulse cut to coil or injector or just simple data a acquisition
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Old 11-11-2013, 12:44 AM   #3183
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My bet it's traction control via pulse cut to coil or injector or just simple data a acquisition
It's a simple ICO tripmeter, connected to the EFI module and fuel guage... special inclusion on Helders bike... to prevent "vapour locking".
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Old 11-11-2013, 12:59 AM   #3184
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Marty Mcfly and Doc Brown came back from the future into the past to help Honda win in the near future but only time will tell whom the future winner of Dakar will be
In the mean time we will have to wait for what the future brings us and when we learn whom has won that will be the past , I can't wait for that to happen ,
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Old 11-11-2013, 01:59 AM   #3185
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My bet it's traction control via pulse cut to coil or injector or just simple data a acquisition
That wouldn't explain the front wheel though
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Old 11-11-2013, 02:40 AM   #3186
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Is the TM for dentists only? It's very clean...although with small gas tanks is it the worlds first nuclear powered Dakar racer?

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Old 11-11-2013, 03:51 AM   #3187
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Not sure the tm is designed with Dakar in mind? Alex Zanolti (who is a dick btw), races the Euro Baja series...and seems to be the TM poster boy...
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Old 11-11-2013, 04:00 AM   #3188
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My bet it's traction control via pulse cut to coil or injector or just simple data a acquisition
Yep, traction control, I'm fairly sure it was mentioned in the press release from a few weeks back.
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Old 11-11-2013, 04:04 AM   #3189
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Not sure the tm is designed with Dakar in mind? Alex Zanolti (who is a dick btw), races the Euro Baja series...and seems to be the TM poster boy...
Unless the DKR on the rear panels of the TM stand for "DicKer" or "DicK Racer" instead of "Dakar" I would hazard a guess their going after the rally crowd.
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Old 11-11-2013, 04:20 AM   #3190
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As far as the HRC, they said it is traction, but I am sure it is way more complicated than the street alternative... Too many variables, terrain, jumps ... I 'd never wanna see the code behind the software... It could alter the map according to the situation to prevent digging in the sand the rear wheel, I think it will be pretty useful most situations...

As the electric bike goes into heavy reserve when the batteries fall below 20%, I am sure now with the injectors, similar mappings will be available for the riders. It could be easily hooked up to the sensors and you only need to input the special stage length and the software will do the rest. It could even inform you if you could make the stage or not according to your riding much like the car trips. Otherwise, you could make the bike be in safe mode if you have 5lt of fuel to get you the max autonomy.

My 2c....

EDIT: By the way, many thanks for the photos... Would love to be there, but this year was a very long shot. Will try my luck next year...
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Old 11-11-2013, 04:39 AM   #3191
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EDIT: By the way, many thanks for the photos... Would love to be there, but this year was a very long shot. Will try my luck next year...
See you there then!

As for the traction control system, my guess for the hall sensor up front is to compare how much more spin the rear wheel has vs. the front, i.e. to regulate power in very soft/sandy terrain. Obviously in smooth terrain the wheels will spin at a good 1:1 ratio.
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Old 11-11-2013, 09:05 AM   #3192
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As far as the HRC, they said it is traction, but I am sure it is way more complicated than the street alternative...
TC would be a good way to lower tire wear if set up correctly.

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Old 11-11-2013, 09:18 AM   #3193
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TC no doubt, and what Tony said makes sense in terms of comparing the front and rear wheel rpm, although wheelies may effect that in a weird way.
It sure as hell ain't ABS

Quality of the KTM and Honda cockpits in comparison to the other bikes... another league completely.
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Old 11-11-2013, 09:49 AM   #3194
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FYI,

Motocross Action Mag got to ride Kurts bike from last year. An interesting take:

http://motocrossactionmag.com/Main/N...KTM-10718.aspx

WE RIDE KURT CASELLI’S STAGE-WINNING DAKAR RALLY KTM 450

This bike is way off the beaten path for the MXA wrecking crew, but when Kurt Caselli told us that we could take his full-factory Red Bull KTM Rally bike out for a test spin, how could we say no?
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Old 11-11-2013, 11:05 AM   #3195
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FYI,

Motocross Action Mag got to ride Kurts bike from last year. An interesting take:

http://motocrossactionmag.com/Main/N...KTM-10718.aspx

WE RIDE KURT CASELLI’S STAGE-WINNING DAKAR RALLY KTM 450

This bike is way off the beaten path for the MXA wrecking crew, but when Kurt Caselli told us that we could take his full-factory Red Bull KTM Rally bike out for a test spin, how could we say no?
Who are these guys? Typical journalists. I'd like to know a lot more about this 6 speed gearbox he has
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