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Old 01-21-2010, 06:55 PM   #46
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I'm sure we'll see a handful of these on next year's Dakar - it was/is so new, perhaps noone was prepared to invest (the time prepping) in one of these for 2010?

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I think you're right about that but you're also playing long odds riding a Gas Gas, Husky, BMW, Kawasaki, etc. You aren't going to go over to the KTM rallye services support truck, plop down the credit card, and have them hand you some Gas Gas parts.

A privateer has to be a dreamer, very brave, or well supported to ride anything but a KTM (or Yamaha and that's my assuming Yamaha France or someone has parts for sale every night in the bivouac). It would really suck to be out of the rallye if you can't get something like a new clutch master cylinder or ECU because you didn't pack one in your Elf box.

The odds are already long that you'll finish the most difficult rallye on the planet; why compound them by riding something besides a KTM?

As for me, I hope BMW and Husky really make something supported so that when I convince my wife that one son will be just fine with horribly crooked teeth and that hyena like under bite on the other isactually cute, I can ride a Husqvarna in the Taureg in a few years. Smiling is very overrated anyway.
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Old 01-21-2010, 07:24 PM   #47
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You aren't going to go over to the KTM rallye services support truck, plop down the credit card, and have them hand you some Gas Gas parts.
You may get away with it if you've got a Beta ??
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Old 01-21-2010, 07:55 PM   #48
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A few points on the discussion;

Gas Gas, dont think the rally is ready yet, spring delivery expected, special order only. Thus none in this years rally.

KTM service truck. In order to use this service you have to register and buy a service contract, not cheap. Plus it just gives you the privilege of buying parts from them. Also they only carry parts to support there current racing platform, so if you are racing a EXC, you are SOL.

As far as the Coma/Depres thing goes, it makes sense that it will be Depres leaving the team, why else would you rat out some one that works for the same company that you do? The tire fiasco looks bad on Coma, but it also looks bad on the team and KTM in general. So if Depres knew that he was leaving anyways, he had no worry's of getting his pee pee slapped for making the KTM teams look bad.

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Old 01-21-2010, 09:00 PM   #49
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Im goin out on a limb and say RG is gonna be in a truck next yr
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a few days after racing the dakar he's at it again in Laughlin.. one handed

either a truck or... maybe something more in the lines of the torags...

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Old 01-22-2010, 12:05 AM   #50
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A privateer has to be a dreamer, very brave, or well supported to ride anything but a KTM (or Yamaha and that's my assuming Yamaha France or someone has parts for sale every night in the bivouac). It would really suck to be out of the rallye if you can't get something like a new clutch master cylinder or ECU because you didn't pack one in your Elf box.

The odds are already long that you'll finish the most difficult rallye on the planet; why compound them by riding something besides a KTM?
I can see you rationale there DC, but isn't that the point of the new rules- to stop the Dakar being essentially a one-make series (certainly at the top end)?

At the moment I'd say there are enough Yamaha's already in the bivouac to give you a good chance of finishing well, and I'd say most competitors fielding a WR will have brought the essentials with them (not least a spare engine/loom seems to be the way to ensure you have every spare with you!) From what I understand, quite a number of people finished this year's event on one engine using the Yamaha...

I agree though that all these new bikes, are essentially 'converted' enduros, which in turn have been derived from MX bikes - particularly the engines, which I think are the weakest link in the whole 450cc equation?

Hell, I baulk and the price of tyres and mousses (and oil and fuel), I don't want to have to start considering a whole damn engine as a consumable too!

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Old 01-22-2010, 11:55 AM   #51
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Continuing progress for Luca!

Continuing positive news on Luca Manca (first hand, even!)

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two words to tell you that I went to see Luca Manca Wednesday in the Clinic in Santiago and it goes well!

I was very surprised by his physical condition and his reactions. When he saw me, he gave a wink and smile ...

He remembers everyone, he recalled the fall of Casteu and was very surprised at the podium Chaleco on Aprilia! And tapped the hand on the bed when I spoke to him on the Dakar. He expresses his anger to fell dow.

He still has difficulty to speak because of intubation but progressing day by day.
It should be repatriated within a few days in Italy, when he can swallow.

I told him how you were all affected by his condition and that you were thinking with him.

In his eyes shines the light of the rider you all know. He just need time to recover.

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Old 01-22-2010, 12:03 PM   #52
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Judith has an awsome book on the dakar from a few years back and a great blog...
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Old 01-22-2010, 01:01 PM   #53
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Look's like the Italian's are workin' on it...

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Personally I'd like to see the new Suzuki RMX450 with a rally kit fitted - yes it is a young machine, but I understand that the service schedule does not require a piston change in the same way as virtually every other enduro engine used in competition is required? With any luck, this powerplant should offer good power AND reliability... it already has decent suspension - all you'd need is a fairing and tank kit...









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Old 01-22-2010, 01:34 PM   #54
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Now that is very interesting Troy!

Not particularly pretty mind you, but could prove to be a hot ticket for the budget privateer?

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Old 01-22-2010, 03:25 PM   #55
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40 riders went down on this slippery floodway just after the refuel on Day 2, then the local police finally wised up and indicated to riders to back off
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Old 01-22-2010, 03:29 PM   #56
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we have lots of those up here in the sierra .. always cross with caution.. it is either slimey or similar to polished granite ...seems grippy until wet then its like ice...
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Was it just me, or out of the six BMW's that started and two that finished, only one had engine troubles? the other three DNF's were rider's down?
Thats not a horrible sign of ultimate fragility (depsite the thrashing that Verhoeven was handing out to it.)

Nonetheless its hard to see it as a long term rally bike. Certainly has power and light weight going for it, but it might have lightened itself out of a job. Not to mention the possibility of BMW's sacking it anyway. I wont buy one, but I wish they would do well.
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Old 01-22-2010, 10:45 PM   #58
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Good Stuff! Especially when you consider what the folks on the Euro side of the Atlantic are thinking when us on the other side haven't even seen that machine yet!!!

Kawi did well in the Baja 1000 with a KX, have you folks over there got a KLX450 RR to go with the Susie????
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Old 01-23-2010, 01:12 AM   #59
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BMW Dakar 2010?

Where were the GS's in the Dakar? I'm a relative noob, but thought there would be more representation.?
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Good Stuff! Especially when you consider what the folks on the Euro side of the Atlantic are thinking when us on the other side haven't even seen that machine yet!!!

Kawi did well in the Baja 1000 with a KX, have you folks over there got a KLX450 RR to go with the Susie????
Yes, the KLX450R is available in the UK (and Europe) - the bike that David Knight purportedly bought with his own money and raced in the latter half of last year, and won a WEC round on no less!

However, in the UK at least, Kawasaki have played this bike down (or rather not promoted it successfully at least), and not many riders here choose a Kawasaki as an MX or enduro machine...

I'm surprised Suzuki haven't released the RMX450Z in the States yet? - I thought you guys got all the good dirt bikes way ahead of Europe!

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