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Old 07-12-2012, 12:06 AM   #1411
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Personally when racing the 690's I always use the rear tank first, then switch over to the front tanks, they're a pig to ride when you have all the tanks full.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:49 AM   #1412
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Since I don't recall seeing it detailed anywhere..... What is the basic strategy on which tanks to use first during the ride ? Do riders tend to runoff the rear tanks first then swap the feed to the main tank? Or do you leave all peacocks open to allow the fuel from all tanks to feed the pump evenly ? Having never ridden with rear tanks on a bike, I still can't imagine that you would want to wrestle a bike at speed with an empty main and all that extra weight hanging off the back end. I'm used to a measly 3.2 litres sloshing around in a trials bike!!
Empty the highest point first to lower centre of gravity, then if the terrain is pretty generic go back and forth between front and rear again to slowly lower the center of gravity first, and tto avoid major drama if one of them start leaking.

Never empty all tanks together. Then based of the type of terrain coming up empty front first if you head towards sand dunes to keep the front light and high, or fast sections so you can use the extra weight on the rear to increase sag and overall stability.. empty rear first if you head toward slow speed and twisty sections to keep the weght toward the front and reduce steering angle.

Avoid draining either front or rear completely to keep dirt away from the filters..
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:56 AM   #1413
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:12 AM   #1414
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I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but have any of the Dakar teams been using fuel cell foam,(http://www.evomx.com/fuel-tank-foam-information/), to help with the fuel sloshing problem? I have used it in MX a time or 2 and it does help keep the fuel in a half empty tank from influencing the handling in a negative way.
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:12 AM   #1415
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I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but have any of the Dakar teams been using fuel cell foam,(http://www.evomx.com/fuel-tank-foam-information/), to help with the fuel sloshing problem? I have used it in MX a time or 2 and it does help keep the fuel in a half empty tank from influencing the handling in a negative way.
I got some but didn't end up running it. I was worried that I wouldn't have time to put enough hours on it to be SURE of how it would act/ react with different fuels, the last thing I needed was to introduce a variable.

At the front, it seems like it would be a valuable addition.
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Old 07-13-2012, 01:46 PM   #1416
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I got some but didn't end up running it. I was worried that I wouldn't have time to put enough hours on it to be SURE of how it would act/ react with different fuels, the last thing I needed was to introduce a variable.

At the front, it seems like it would be a valuable addition.
Verhoeven ran some the first year on the bmw , his totally dissolved..
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Old 07-13-2012, 05:18 PM   #1417
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Verhoeven ran some the first year on the bmw , his totally dissolved..
I suspect the high alcohol content of the South American fuel doesn't work well with the foam.
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Old 07-14-2012, 08:55 AM   #1418
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I suspect the high alcohol content of the South American fuel doesn't work well with the foam.
I was worried about that. But to be fair, we ran almost all Total 98 octane out of barrels, occasionally we bought local gas but not often.
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Old 07-28-2012, 03:05 AM   #1419
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Sadly, Andy's bike is for sale

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Old 07-31-2012, 09:02 AM   #1420
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Laugh Maybe this'll bring you round Doyle...?

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Funny, I get less and less impressed with Nasser with each post that mentions his name.



Maybe good ol' boy Robby would have cut Nasser All Attire some slack... if he'd had a shot gun in his hands during the DAKAR last January...?



The Qatari Quid just took out the bronze medal at the London Olympic's in the Mens Skeet shooting competition.



Them boys sure don't miss very often...
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Old 08-01-2012, 05:43 PM   #1421
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While we wait for the Dakar (Can you believe that in 4 days it will be less than 5 months away? Not much time at all!) I have been scratching around and am putting on a series of best of bikes.

Hope you enjoy. Ned, you're in there somewhere too, hope it brings back good memories. More coming soon.

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Old 08-01-2012, 06:40 PM   #1422
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Hope you enjoy. Ned, you're in there somewhere too, hope it brings back good memories. More coming soon.
Great stuff, Neil. It does.
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:21 PM   #1423
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Thanks, Neil. Can't wait for parts 5-6
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:23 PM   #1424
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Thanks, Neil. Can't wait for parts 5-6
Well I had part 2 up last night but now I have been crapped out for copywrite on the soundtrack and warned.

Smugmug bugs out when I try and upload it there, files are too big I think. So its going to be back the drawing board for a little while me thinks.
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Old 08-02-2012, 02:10 PM   #1425
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Well I had part 2 up last night but now I have been crapped out for copywrite on the soundtrack and warned.

Smugmug bugs out when I try and upload it there, files are too big I think. So its going to be back the drawing board for a little while me thinks.
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